I was listening to Mid-day 180 the other day and they were talking about worst Titans jerseys. Long story short, it got me thinking. Who was a bigger disappointment, VY or Locker.
VY won some games in great fashion and then totally crapped the bed. Locker with all the potential in the world but could not stay healthy.
VY won some games in great fashion and then totally crapped the bed. Locker with all the potential in the world but could not stay healthy.
I think biggest disappointment was young. He destroyed himself. Locker couldn't stay healthy . But locker should have never been a top 8 pick.
I think VY with where he was taken and the expectations coming out of college.
I always felt Locker was overrated. Even in college. If he was that great, the impact on his team would have been greater. I was never fond of his mechanics or his accuracy when throwing the ball.
I always felt Locker was overrated. Even in college. If he was that great, the impact on his team would have been greater. I was never fond of his mechanics or his accuracy when throwing the ball.
We had this conversation a little while back, IDK the name if the thread, it's the one I didn't start tho...
They were both opposite sides of the same s****y coin. VY had all the talent in the world and had a knack for winning. But he was a me-first turd and refused to put in the work to get to the next level. Locker had the work ethic and attitude you want from a franchise QB but as we all know his downfall was his body's absolute refusal to stay healthy. And he was about as streaky as they come on the field.
Put their best qualities together and you got a legit franchise QB. Unfortunately that's not the way it works.
They were equal busts imo. I'm sure many will say VY due to his draft position and embarrassing fall from grace. But imo Locker is right there with him. Neither came even remotely close to living up to their draft spot.
Put their best qualities together and you got a legit franchise QB. Unfortunately that's not the way it works.
They were equal busts imo. I'm sure many will say VY due to his draft position and embarrassing fall from grace. But imo Locker is right there with him. Neither came even remotely close to living up to their draft spot.
VY won us games.
And VY was let go because of the incident with Fisher/Injury. NOT because he wasn't producing on the field.
And VY was let go because of the incident with Fisher/Injury. NOT because he wasn't producing on the field.
Yes but didnt he get hurt his last game as a Titan?
Jake Locker was a bigger disappointment to me.
I hated the Jake Locker pick more than anything draft/free agent signing in any sport I follow. I remember joking with friends saying "If the Titans draft Locker, I will become a Dallas Cowboys fan." Good thing they didn't hold me to that. I'd honestly rather watch Jake Locker break every bone in his body and set back the franchise for half a decade before rooting for the Cowboys.
The fact he would show shades of being a good QB, he would just get hurt the following series made things even worse. If I was old and had a daughter, he'd probably be the type of guy I'd want her to marry. But I wouldn't of drafted him within the first 4-5 rounds if I was a GM.
At least with VY he brought a sense of national relevancy to the Titans (good and bad.) He won games and half the time he did it was in entertaining fashion. Also those two seasons Vince flashed his potential and went on winning streaks with dramatic clutch finishes (rookie and 4th year). I had the sense and feeling that the following year, we could seriously contend and make a playoff run. Made the playoffs his second year and looked like we would his 5th year until the VY/Fisher fallout.
For me, after the Locker pick I knew he wasn't going to do anything and just be a waste of time. There wasn't one moment that I thought "Hey, I might be wrong about this guy." If there was, he probably brought me right back to down to reality shattering something in his body the next series or the next game.
At least with Vince I had moments of believing the team was on the right track.
I hated the Jake Locker pick more than anything draft/free agent signing in any sport I follow. I remember joking with friends saying "If the Titans draft Locker, I will become a Dallas Cowboys fan." Good thing they didn't hold me to that. I'd honestly rather watch Jake Locker break every bone in his body and set back the franchise for half a decade before rooting for the Cowboys.
The fact he would show shades of being a good QB, he would just get hurt the following series made things even worse. If I was old and had a daughter, he'd probably be the type of guy I'd want her to marry. But I wouldn't of drafted him within the first 4-5 rounds if I was a GM.
At least with VY he brought a sense of national relevancy to the Titans (good and bad.) He won games and half the time he did it was in entertaining fashion. Also those two seasons Vince flashed his potential and went on winning streaks with dramatic clutch finishes (rookie and 4th year). I had the sense and feeling that the following year, we could seriously contend and make a playoff run. Made the playoffs his second year and looked like we would his 5th year until the VY/Fisher fallout.
For me, after the Locker pick I knew he wasn't going to do anything and just be a waste of time. There wasn't one moment that I thought "Hey, I might be wrong about this guy." If there was, he probably brought me right back to down to reality shattering something in his body the next series or the next game.
At least with Vince I had moments of believing the team was on the right track.
The one who retired and never tried to start over with another team.
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Who remembers the "Jets Game Locker" before he got hurt?
If that Locker showed up week in and week out, we damn sure would be in great hands.
If that Locker showed up week in and week out, we damn sure would be in great hands.
I know right! What a buzz kill!
If that Jets team showed up week in week out, we would also be in great hands.
But you're right. He was on point until he got hurt.
It's also telling how there have been several reports that VY was Bud's pick. Fisher and the staff apparently didn't want Vince and in a way it showed.
You could argue that Vince saved Fisher's job not once, but twice.
I would say Vince had to prove himself able to come in his rookie year and do well and also re-prove himself his 4th year, but both times it was ordered by Bud to play him. Wasn't a Fisher decision either time. But better believe it was a Jeffy move to play Collins any chance he could come up with.
Then move on to Locker era. From the top down he had the entire organizations support. Also unlike Vince, whom after VY was drafted, the following years given weapons like a bunch of 3rd-4th round receivers (except for Britt 3 years later.) and CJ whom when was picked I'm sure most of you did not expect the production he would bring.
Locker on the other hand was being built around. Kendall Wright picked the next year, traded up for Justin Hunter the following year. 2 first year lineman. The team seemed all in to make Jake succeed and he just couldn't stay on the field. Then in return got a loyal guy who has been with this franchise for 3 decades, fired.
It's disappointing that the guy whom seemed to have the more talented roster (at least offensively), did less than the guy who appeared to have less talent.
You could argue that Vince saved Fisher's job not once, but twice.
I would say Vince had to prove himself able to come in his rookie year and do well and also re-prove himself his 4th year, but both times it was ordered by Bud to play him. Wasn't a Fisher decision either time. But better believe it was a Jeffy move to play Collins any chance he could come up with.
Then move on to Locker era. From the top down he had the entire organizations support. Also unlike Vince, whom after VY was drafted, the following years given weapons like a bunch of 3rd-4th round receivers (except for Britt 3 years later.) and CJ whom when was picked I'm sure most of you did not expect the production he would bring.
Locker on the other hand was being built around. Kendall Wright picked the next year, traded up for Justin Hunter the following year. 2 first year lineman. The team seemed all in to make Jake succeed and he just couldn't stay on the field. Then in return got a loyal guy who has been with this franchise for 3 decades, fired.
It's disappointing that the guy whom seemed to have the more talented roster (at least offensively), did less than the guy who appeared to have less talent.
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Yaall still acting like vy didn't get ****** over. Wouldn't of mattered what he did, he wouldn't have succeeded in tenn
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Locker was the bigger disappointment... he never really produced at all because of his injuries. We basically wasted 4 years on him. At least we were contenders with VY.
I can't directly disagree with anything anyone has said, but honestly being more excited about drafting Locker than when we drafted Vince at the time of those drafts? Child please. Kiss the baby.
I have never been so excited over a pick still to this day than when the Titans drafted Vince.
I swore the team had just got the Michael Jordan of football.
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