Ok, a TON has gone on in the last few days, both for the Titans and around the league. What do you think will change in draft predictions?
Here's my take:
New Orleans just got their QB for the next few years, I doubt they'll pull the trigger on one at number 2 when they just tied up 60 million on Brees. Miami, one of the biggest QB seekers, has Daunte. Detroit signed Kitna, and probably wouldn't pay a bundle to trade up for a QB. Will New Orleans make another pick at #2, or will they trade?
There is much less demand for QBs now, Houston was rumored to be shopping for a trade, but didn't get much interest. I can't think of a team that would be at a point to trade up to grab a QB, can anyone? It doesn't seem like Chicago's style to trade that far up, and the Redskins are running out of money and draft picks. If New Orleans trades out, we'll have our pick of the three QBs.
Why do I think we're taking a QB? Well, our biggest holes were O-line, safety, LB, and WR. None of those really could have been solved that early in the draft, or at least weren't worth it. Hawk was the closest, and with Thornton and Bulluck, I don't see us putting that much more investment into the LBs this offseason, maybe a little more for a backup. We've addressed WR, and O-line to some degree, so our major hole is QB. I think we'll take the one we think is the best and then hit up a safety in round two, unless we somehow manage to sign Chris Hope in the next few days, then round 2 becomes all about BPA.
I will say I don't think we're "gearing up for a run," despite the pickups. Thornton and Givens are both young guys who will be valuable to the team long term, and neither are huge names that will literally be all over the board. The Mawae pickup was a huge surprise, but apparently the FO didn't think we could use Bell or Amano (or Amato, I get them confused) to start, so they put some money into it because a truly great player was available.
I think the reasons for this activity are that Reese and Fisher are finally feeling some pressure and are really making changes to make us better. We're definitely building a young team, but they know they're running out of time. They've made a HUGE deal about the character and leadership of all three signings, so they clearly want to make an impact on the additude and leadership on the team. I think this is just the first indication that they're running out of patience and truly expect us to make serious progress this next season.
All that being said, I'm THRILLED with the last few days, because I think we've seen our team making some big steps. Signing a franchise QB with the #3 pick will really stabilize us for some time to come.
What does everyone think about all this?
Any other major changes in either the draft interests of other teams, or of the Titans needs?
Here's my take:
New Orleans just got their QB for the next few years, I doubt they'll pull the trigger on one at number 2 when they just tied up 60 million on Brees. Miami, one of the biggest QB seekers, has Daunte. Detroit signed Kitna, and probably wouldn't pay a bundle to trade up for a QB. Will New Orleans make another pick at #2, or will they trade?
There is much less demand for QBs now, Houston was rumored to be shopping for a trade, but didn't get much interest. I can't think of a team that would be at a point to trade up to grab a QB, can anyone? It doesn't seem like Chicago's style to trade that far up, and the Redskins are running out of money and draft picks. If New Orleans trades out, we'll have our pick of the three QBs.
Why do I think we're taking a QB? Well, our biggest holes were O-line, safety, LB, and WR. None of those really could have been solved that early in the draft, or at least weren't worth it. Hawk was the closest, and with Thornton and Bulluck, I don't see us putting that much more investment into the LBs this offseason, maybe a little more for a backup. We've addressed WR, and O-line to some degree, so our major hole is QB. I think we'll take the one we think is the best and then hit up a safety in round two, unless we somehow manage to sign Chris Hope in the next few days, then round 2 becomes all about BPA.
I will say I don't think we're "gearing up for a run," despite the pickups. Thornton and Givens are both young guys who will be valuable to the team long term, and neither are huge names that will literally be all over the board. The Mawae pickup was a huge surprise, but apparently the FO didn't think we could use Bell or Amano (or Amato, I get them confused) to start, so they put some money into it because a truly great player was available.
I think the reasons for this activity are that Reese and Fisher are finally feeling some pressure and are really making changes to make us better. We're definitely building a young team, but they know they're running out of time. They've made a HUGE deal about the character and leadership of all three signings, so they clearly want to make an impact on the additude and leadership on the team. I think this is just the first indication that they're running out of patience and truly expect us to make serious progress this next season.
All that being said, I'm THRILLED with the last few days, because I think we've seen our team making some big steps. Signing a franchise QB with the #3 pick will really stabilize us for some time to come.
What does everyone think about all this?
Any other major changes in either the draft interests of other teams, or of the Titans needs?
GoTitans3801 said:
The Titans right now have their choice of any one of the three QB's. If N.O. trades the pick, it will be to a team looking to get in front the Titans to get a QB. If New Orleans stays put, they'll draft anything but a QB and still leave any of three top QB's for the Titans to pick.
If I'm Reese, I wouldn't be against trading back to somewhere between #5-10 spots. You pick up a couple extra picks (potentially a first in next year's draft) and still have a shot at one of the three QB's if that what my heart is set on in drafting a QB.
If Mario Williams stock continues to rise and New Orleans trades the pick to another team that drafts a QB at #2, the Titans should look to trade back if Williams isn't the guy they want at #3 and really want to draft a QB to a team that assures them that they want Williams.
Danny, I know everyone thinks mario is really great, but I still don't think we'd pick him, even if we traded down. We resigned KVB, and I think the FO is confident that we're ok with the mix of Odom and LaBoy on the other side.
Soxcat, I agree. I don't know that Leinart is their top pick QB, but whoever it is, they can stay there and get whoever they want of the three.
As for a NO trade, the only team I can see being able/willing to do it is the raiders. They need a QB, but I think they'd be more likely to wait and take the number 2 or 3 out of the top 3 QBs. It would cost them a lot to move up, Reese likes to play hardball for trades...
Soxcat, I agree. I don't know that Leinart is their top pick QB, but whoever it is, they can stay there and get whoever they want of the three.
As for a NO trade, the only team I can see being able/willing to do it is the raiders. They need a QB, but I think they'd be more likely to wait and take the number 2 or 3 out of the top 3 QBs. It would cost them a lot to move up, Reese likes to play hardball for trades...
If New Orleans traded with anybody they would trade with Arizona because face it Warner isn't that good and Fitzgerald, Bolden and now Edge need someone to throw the football to them.
could shake out something like this too...http://nflmockdraft.us/
There will be lots of speculation as to how the draft will shake out now. Oakland may go up for Leinart or may be content to sit tight and take whoever falls to them. Al Davis may get a happy on for Vince Young and go to #2 to get him. Leinart in a Raydah suit might also sell tickets.
It'll be a fun next few weeks.
It'll be a fun next few weeks.
That's an interesting new top ten, let's see what the others say when they update...
danny said:
It's still not right!
Mario Williams is at #5 going to GB - when he's gonna slip or go earlier (GB signed their DE's so they may go after Ngata, DT)
Arizona if they get someone like Eric Winston will dominate next year
1. Jets - Leinart. Eli & Matt rule Gotham City. Hollywood Matt meets Broadway Joe!
2. Raiders - Cutler. Al Davis is a wildcard....big arm to throw deep.
3. Titans - Bush. Can we be this fortunate? Chris Brown gets traded for our missing third rounder.
4. Texans - Furguson. The move down pays off.
5. GB - Williams
6. Niners - Hawk
7. Saints - Huff
8. Bills - Ngata
9. Lions - Justice. Young and Matt Millen just don't mix.
10. Cards - Young. Green has the "stones" is make this pick. Warner is not getting any younger (no pun intended) and they need to sell season tickets for their new stadium.
2. Raiders - Cutler. Al Davis is a wildcard....big arm to throw deep.
3. Titans - Bush. Can we be this fortunate? Chris Brown gets traded for our missing third rounder.
4. Texans - Furguson. The move down pays off.
5. GB - Williams
6. Niners - Hawk
7. Saints - Huff
8. Bills - Ngata
9. Lions - Justice. Young and Matt Millen just don't mix.
10. Cards - Young. Green has the "stones" is make this pick. Warner is not getting any younger (no pun intended) and they need to sell season tickets for their new stadium.
^^^I love the looks of this, I'd probably keep Chris Brown around another year unless it's a late 2nd, doubt it though.
Arizona needs a QB - I doubt Warner makes 3 years, but you never know.
Raiders, obviously.
Y'all forgot the Vikings. Brad Anderson is a short-term answer. Now they have a #1 pick and two #2s.
Rams would be wise, but they're not being prudent, and so would Detroit. I know it's not the Rams' time (but I'd have limited faith in Bulger if I were a fan) and Ryan Fitzpatrick may actually have a future. Kitna is clearly short-term. If the Lions trade Harrington, I think Cutler is still a target for them.
Tampa Bay? And it's almost time KC considered drafting Trent Green's replacement, though not this year.
Raiders, obviously.
Y'all forgot the Vikings. Brad Anderson is a short-term answer. Now they have a #1 pick and two #2s.
Rams would be wise, but they're not being prudent, and so would Detroit. I know it's not the Rams' time (but I'd have limited faith in Bulger if I were a fan) and Ryan Fitzpatrick may actually have a future. Kitna is clearly short-term. If the Lions trade Harrington, I think Cutler is still a target for them.
Tampa Bay? And it's almost time KC considered drafting Trent Green's replacement, though not this year.
And my favorite is still the Jets. We should prevent them from trading with NO. There's no point now. They've got their QB, so they're not a threat to take one, and they're more costly to deal with than we are 
winker: ). We could say "Trade with us and take your pick of QBs." I'd be fine with taking whoever is left between Leinart and Young (Young) (Young) (Young). We can't lose that way and it costs them less than moving to #2 or #1. In fact, at minimum, I would make the trade for their #1 and 2 (though I'd try for a 3rd/4th or a pick next year, too).
And for goodness sake, someone trade Billy Volek already!
winker: ). We could say "Trade with us and take your pick of QBs." I'd be fine with taking whoever is left between Leinart and Young (Young) (Young) (Young). We can't lose that way and it costs them less than moving to #2 or #1. In fact, at minimum, I would make the trade for their #1 and 2 (though I'd try for a 3rd/4th or a pick next year, too).And for goodness sake, someone trade Billy Volek already!
Jay Cutlerdanny said:
NFL Player Most Comparable to: Phillip Rivers
lovely comparison...:lol:
Rivers had the most career starts in NCAA history and has taken like 10 snaps in two years....I think the Chargers would have traded him if Brees didn't get hurt.
royhobbs, do you think the Raiders will be knocking at the door looking to get some Vince Young or Matt Leinart? If that is how we got the Brick I could be a happy man.
SEC 330 BIPOLAR said:
I am thinking the Raiders might go after Aaron Brooks and draft whichever QB falls. Trading back to #7 is a risk for us because Bush, Leinart, Young, Brick, Super Mario, and Hawk will likely be gone, leaving Cutler. I'd do it for their #2, but not for only a #3. Also, the demand for a trade up to #1-3 for a QB is growing smaller by the minute. Detroit won't now, if the Jets get Ramsey or (Stump the) Schaub, they won't, the Aints and the Phins won't either. That leaves the Raiders, Cardinals, and Vikings who all are outside the top 6. Al Davis falling in love with Leinart is a real possibility....but he'll trade with the Saints, not us.
The Jets want Ramsey as a back-up. They still could be after Leinart.
I could see them trading their first and John Abraham for the Texan's first and taking Leinart or whoever they covet.
And I could see the Raiders moving up to #2 if the Saints want to trade down.
If this does happen we better take Bush.
I could see them trading their first and John Abraham for the Texan's first and taking Leinart or whoever they covet.
And I could see the Raiders moving up to #2 if the Saints want to trade down.
If this does happen we better take Bush.
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