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ShoTym said:
I guess you didn't watch any preseason football at all this weekend. Almost every QB that played more than one series made bad decisions. That doesn't mean he's not ready. This whole "He's not ready" theory is a bunch of crap. Eli, Peyton, Carr, Harrington, Smith, Bledsoe, Leftwich, Plummer, Weinke all started their rookie season. Plummer and Weinke weren't even first rounders. So don't give me that he's not ready crap. Vince could step in and play the position right now. Yes he'll make mistakes but that's what rookies do. He'll also be learning on the job. You guys can cry that "give him a year to learn" crap if you want. But the fact is he's gonna make those mistakes in his first season. Everybody knows practice is not the same as in game experience. One year on the bench is not gonna remove all of his mistakes due to inexperience. They'll just happen one year later.
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Thinking like you do could do more harm than good. That's why Jeff Fisher is coaching and your not. I agree he should have some playing time this year, but I don't think he should play every game. Risk playing a 58 million dollar QB in his rookie year IS NOT a great decision (refer to saturday nights game.)
 
MissouriTitan1 said:
Thinking like you do could do more harm than good. That's why Jeff Fisher is coaching and your not. I agree he should have some playing time this year, but I don't think he should play every game. Risk playing a 58 million dollar QB in his rookie year IS NOT a great decision (refer to saturday nights game.)
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So the coaches that started the Mannings, Carr, Harrington, Smith, Plummer, Weinke etc. are all idiots then huh? A QB can only get hurt when he starts as a rookie huh? You are making no sense at all. Let's protect that $58 mil QB and just never play him. That way he will never get hurt, unless it's in practice. Oh well, let's hold him out of practice too.
 
On the other hand, Billy looked sharp (1st series incompletion to Givens notwithstanding)...I actually like him as a stopgap to the VY era. Especially if the run game holds up.

I'm not a huge favor of reverting to the "live or die by the field goal" mentality, though.
 
TitanJeff said:
If you want the Titans to win more than five games, pray Volek stays healthy.
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OH Reynaldo, please watch over Billy Volek.
keep him free from injury...
make his passes spot on...

keep him free from ints..

and deliever him from forced fumbles.
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glory be to Fisher Floyd and Reynaldo...
as it was in the beginning, is now and ever shall be...

a world without the OILERS. Amen.
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ShoTym said:
So the coaches that started the Mannings, Carr, Harrington, Smith, Plummer, Weinke etc. are all idiots then huh? A QB can only get hurt when he starts as a rookie huh? You are making no sense at all. Let's protect that $58 mil QB and just never play him. That way he will never get hurt, unless it's in practice. Oh well, let's hold him out of practice too.
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I don't remember anywhere in my post stating not to ever start VY. What I'm saying is there is absolutly no need to start him this quick. A rookie mistake like what he tried to do saturday night could have cost him the entire season. To me, imo, it's not worth starting somebody that has his potential to early. He has much to learn before being named #1. And yes, those coaches (and G.M's) of those listed besides dungy are idiots.:))
 
SEC 330 BIPOLAR said:
priest.gif
OH Reynaldo, please watch over Billy Volek.
keep him free from injury...
make his passes spot on...

keep him free from ints..

and deliever him from forced fumbles.
priest.gif

glory be to Fisher Floyd and Reynaldo...
as it was in the beginning, is now and ever shall be...

a world without the OILERS. Amen.
priest.gif
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I don't care who you are...that there is funny!!

Back to the thread topic, current discussion about whether or not he's ready to play, not withstanding. I just read an interesting quote from Vince. When asked about the ankle injury, he said, "It was kind of a tradition for him to tweak his ankle every first game." Then said "It was pretty cool." :bonk:
 
MissouriTitan1 said:
I don't remember anywhere in my post stating not to ever start VY. What I'm saying is there is absolutly no need to start him this quick. A rookie mistake like what he tried to do saturday night could have cost him the entire season. To me, imo, it's not worth starting somebody that has his potential to early. He has much to learn before being named #1. And yes, those coaches (and G.M's) of those listed besides dungy are idiots.:))
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My first post gang -
I think the issue of when (or if) to start a rookie is as much a matter of their maturity -- how they react to adversity - as it is their game readiness. All new QB's will make rookie mistakes -- it's a matter of how those mistakes affect them. Take a look back at two HOF QB's - Troy Aikman and Dan Marino - both started as rookies (Aikman's situation most comparable to Young).
 
I personally would like to see him as the 2nd string guy but atlease one or 2 drives per game get in there to see how far he has progressed. Lets face it, this team is not going to the playoffs. If they are .500 by the end of the year I will see it as a successful season.

Vince and the coaches needs game time to benchmark his progression.
 
MissouriTitan1 said:
I don't remember anywhere in my post stating not to ever start VY. What I'm saying is there is absolutly no need to start him this quick. A rookie mistake like what he tried to do saturday night could have cost him the entire season. To me, imo, it's not worth starting somebody that has his potential to early. He has much to learn before being named #1. And yes, those coaches (and G.M's) of those listed besides dungy are idiots.:))
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You are right. There is no NEED to start him this quick. My entire argument is against the people who are acting as if Vince can only learn by sitting a year and that starting him game 1 will somehow destroy him. It's ultimately up to Fisher. But if he decides to start him game one, people should not worry that he will be forever lost because of it.

Also, that ankle tweek Saturday has absolutely nothing to do with the horrible rookie mistake he made. He was getting tackled as he threw up the ball. So he was gonna get that ankle tweeked regardless.

I don't know that a rookie QB stands anymore risk of injury than any other QB.
 
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