Kelly had an awesome run in 90-91 and was pretty good overall, just doesn’t really hold up against the best of the best. Lack of SB aside, Marino does.
Brady proved he was the reason they won all those SB. He switched teams, and won it again, with a below average squad. Literally transformed them overnight. So the QB is everything. Brady put the nail in that coffin. Marino should have got it done. He didn't. He just wasn't clutch. Kelly transformed the Bills instantly as well, but never got over the hump. Brady and Montana two best ever. You have to shine in the clutch moments.
Why do you love Rypien so much. He won one superbowl over Kelly, the one guy who didn't have a clutch bone in him. Marino didn't even make the playoffs. And Elway was hurt. Rypien was pretty much the only guy left that year finishing as the 2nd best QB in the MVP voting
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John elway played 16 games the year rypien was #2 QB in the MVP race.
Hard to argue Kelly “didn’t have a clutch bone in his body” with 4 straight SB appearances. And for his defense, the Bills were only better than NYG.
While I’m not going to defend Rypien, he’s an excellently example of how TEAMS make the difference vice just a QB. I don’t think you’re making the statement that rypien is better than Kelly but it did seem in your earlier post you thought Kelly was better than Marino?
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Brady is the GOAT. But that Bucs team was not below average. Evans and Godwin were already budding stars and that defense was really good.
Ok, this has been up for awhile now...
Which dingleberry vote for Jim Kelly?
Which dingleberry vote for Jim Kelly?
It’s public
and I now question everything he posts unless he adds explanation for that nonsense.
Haven’t put on jam jams in 3 days….. Did squeeze my Teddy though!
This one is easy. Nobody does any research around here.
Kelly and Marino faced each other in twenty-one games throughout their careers, including three playoff games. Jim Kelly won all three playoff games and dominated with a 14-7 win advantage. The qb ratings, yards per attempt, and completion rates are near identical. So the numbers wash out.
It was utter dominance. Marino didn't have the lead for even one second in all three playoff games. Not. One. Second.
The entire era they overlapped belonged to Kelly. It was a total beatdown by Kelly no matter how you look at it.
It really is simple.
Kelly and Marino faced each other in twenty-one games throughout their careers, including three playoff games. Jim Kelly won all three playoff games and dominated with a 14-7 win advantage. The qb ratings, yards per attempt, and completion rates are near identical. So the numbers wash out.
It was utter dominance. Marino didn't have the lead for even one second in all three playoff games. Not. One. Second.
The entire era they overlapped belonged to Kelly. It was a total beatdown by Kelly no matter how you look at it.
It really is simple.
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This has to be a troll job. No one really thinks w/l against each other’s team is any kind of a deciding factor at all.
Cherry picking 3 categories of passing stats and saying they’re near identical, them saying because of that the stats are a wash, is just ridiculous.
Why would anyone consider the extra 25k yards or 175 TD passing when their comp % is close to the same?
Cherry picking 3 categories of passing stats and saying they’re near identical, them saying because of that the stats are a wash, is just ridiculous.
Why would anyone consider the extra 25k yards or 175 TD passing when their comp % is close to the same?
The xtra 35k and 175 TD passes came with 3000 more pass attempts than Kelly. Same thing happens to Steve Young who gets criminally underrated. So you look at the analytics to get a better picture. And they tell it. That's the more accurate assessment. And they come out nearly identical in the ratings. But then you look at head to head, and Kelly blows him out of the water. This isn't 1985 were you decide based on who looked prettier or who had the hotter wife. We've moved beyond that.
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Head to head is not really head to head. That’s Marino vs the Bills, one of the greatest all around teams ever and Kelly vs the dolphins, not the same story of greatness.
The H2H record is 100% worthless in the comparison of the 2.
While you’re looking into all the analytics and everything, I’m sure the question must have popped into your mind why Marino had 3000 more att. Not only was his career longer but he never had Thurman Thomas or even Greg Bell. The best he had was Kareem Abdul Jabbar, most people don’t even know him outside of the same name Basketball player.
We can also argue WR. Reed is a HoF, Kelly also had Lofton for a short window. Marino had some solid guys but outside of Fryar, who only had a couple seasons in MIA, he didn’t get HoFers.
yes the Bills were better than the dolphins....
BUT Marino was superior to kelley
This was only formality anyway, and the one, while not a good explanation, has reasoned to himself Kelly was better.Welp, 24-1 buttons this case up pretty real good I'd say....
That’s fine, I’d assume, even counting bills fans, the national voting average of a Marino vs Kelly poll would be close to 25:1 in favor of Marino.
Let’s MSM the numbers. 96% believe marino. If applied nationally to 350 mil people, only 13 mil would believe Kelly is better, and I’m confertable thinking that is close to the bills fan base plus legit conspiracy weirdos/druggies.
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