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dg1979us said:
Jeff I dont understand the need for a smokescreen here.
They are negotiating contracts with these guys. Maybe they think they can get some kind of edge by taking this slow instead of making it look like he is the clear choice -- trying to build a little leverage.

I would suspect more teams would be interested in trading up for Bush than Williams, and the only reason Houston would need to throw a smokescreen would be to try and get better trade offers.
That too.

Not saying they wont end up taking Bush, but I have to think they are strongly considering Williams at this point.
I would be totally shocked but we are talking about the cows.
 
TitanJeff said:
They are negotiating contracts with these guys. Maybe they think they can get some kind of edge by taking this slow instead of making it look like he is the clear choice -- trying to build a little leverage.


That too.


I would be totally shocked but we are talking about the cows.


But I dont see them gaining any trade leverage by throwing out the idea that you might take Williams. I dont see nearly as many teams willing to trade up for Williams as they would be for Bush. Unless, they think that the saints would take Williams before Bush, but thats a pretty big risk to even trade down one spot if they do want Bush.

And we are talking about the cows, but honestly, it makes just as much sense to me to take Williams or Ferguson for them, as Davis really is a nice RB, especially if they can improve their line. Thats a team with a lot of needs, but RB is a place where they are actually ok. But, it doesnt make sense to take Williams or Ferguson at one, if they really do want Williams they should definately try to trade down, but they only team I could really see them trading with would be the saints. If the Jets trade up then the saints could easily snag Williams at two. Ill say this though, a few months ago the top 3 picks looked to be locked in, but since then this draft has gotten a lot less predictable and interesting, thats for sure.
 
dg1979us said:
But I dont see them gaining any trade leverage by throwing out the idea that you might take Williams. I dont see nearly as many teams willing to trade up for Williams as they would be for Bush. Unless, they think that the saints would take Williams before Bush, but thats a pretty big risk to even trade down one spot if they do want Bush.

And we are talking about the cows, but honestly, it makes just as much sense to me to take Williams or Ferguson for them, as Davis really is a nice RB, especially if they can improve their line. Thats a team with a lot of needs, but RB is a place where they are actually ok. But, it doesnt make sense to take Williams or Ferguson at one, if they really do want Williams they should definately try to trade down, but they only team I could really see them trading with would be the saints. If the Jets trade up then the saints could easily snag Williams at two. Ill say this though, a few months ago the top 3 picks looked to be locked in, but since then this draft has gotten a lot less predictable and interesting, thats for sure.
since they have a good rb in dominik davis, they should trade down to the jets for example cause they can still snag ferguson at #4 which would help improve their line a lot
 
GhostZ said:
since they have a good rb in dominik davis, they should trade down to the jets for example cause they can still snag ferguson at #4 which would help improve their line a lot

I dont necessarily disagree but the Jets arent going to trade up to one (if they want Bush that is) if they think the Texans might take WIlliams. The Jets would try to swap with the saints. I think the Texans end up taking Bush, but I also think it makes sense to take Williams or Ferguson considering their needs. Mel Kiper was just saying that if Williams had been a bit more consistent last year that he would be the top player on everybodys board. So I have to think that their is some seriousness to the Texans at least having a strong interest in Williams, they might not go that way, but I would think they are at least strongly considering it.
 
I would love to be in the war room if Bush fell to the Titans. Reese would be doing carwheels, Chow would be doing the Macreena, and Fisher would be running circles around the war room table
 
but i dont know if we would take him tho, because we have two capable backs, and i think bush is the best and will be much better, but we really must get vince because after what happened to McNair were screwed and we cant be one dimensional on the ground
 
maximus said:
I would love to be in the war room if Bush fell to the Titans. Reese would be doing carwheels, Chow would be doing the Macreena, and Fisher would be running circles around the war room table

It would be interesting if he fell to us, though I dont see it happening. Of course, with the McNair situation, Im not sure we arent in a position to where we have to take a QB. So Im not positive we would even take Bush if he fell to us, unless they feel they can get the Mcnair situation worked out.
 
Reese has always talked big on "best player available" - getting value out of a pick this high. He's also said it's very hard to pass up a franchise quarterback...
 
pfft franchise QB my a$$, none are any more certain then Omar Jacobs is.

Reggie to Tennessee.

Omar Jacobs to Tennessee.

Gunny to Tennessee.
 
dg1979us said:
But I dont see them gaining any trade leverage by throwing out the idea that you might take Williams.
Would the Cows have any leverage with Bush if they went to only to him and told him he was the pick?

I dont see nearly as many teams willing to trade up for Williams as they would be for Bush.
I agree. But they may also have a team interested in making a trade up for Bush already. If that is the case, they need to have alternatives ready.
 
and suddenly Reynaldo demands a trade.

I agree. But they may also have a team interested in making a trade up for Bush already. If that is the case, they need to have alternatives ready.

I maybe missing something here, but if a team wants to trade up for Williams, that means Houston misses out on Bush - which obviously wouldn't bother them, else they wouldn't trade out.

If a team trades up for Bush, Houston run a massive risk of missing out on Williams if that is who they want.
 
Gunny said:
and suddenly Reynaldo demands a trade.



I maybe missing something here, but if a team wants to trade up for Williams, that means Houston misses out on Bush - which obviously wouldn't bother them, else they wouldn't trade out.

If a team trades up for Bush, Houston run a massive risk of missing out on Williams if that is who they want.
but thats a risk that u always take when u trade down
 
TitanJeff said:
Would the Cows have any leverage with Bush if they went to only to him and told him he was the pick?


I agree. But they may also have a team interested in making a trade up for Bush already. If that is the case, they need to have alternatives ready.

Unless that team is the saints then there is no guarantee they get Williams. If that is who they want then they better take him at one because there is a really good chance he doesnt fall past 2, so Williams cant really be considered a probable alternative.

Of course, they could secretly want Ferguson and are willing to trade down to take him. But I cant see them passing on both Bush and WIlliams.
 
I think the Texans take Mario number 1. NO will trade down to 5 and take Hawk. GB takes Bush. Who knows what Reese is thinking. I think we end up with Young. I'm still holding out hope that we pick D'Brick though !
 
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