Davis never made the 10K rushing mark and is not top 30 overall in any catagory. Apples to Oranges
Which guy survived, don't tell me Lewis cause look what he's done the past two years eh, nothin'BlazingArrow#9 said:
Lewis came off pretty easy and had 100 tackles the season after. He is still not the stabbing bight your face off guy he use to be but he did not get what Culpepper, George, McNabb to name a few got.
THE CURSE!!
THE CURSE!!
Davis averaged a full 1 more yard per carry during his career. He had 3 1500+ yard seasons (to Eddie's 1). He had a 2000 yard season (Eddie had 0). He had roughly the same number of TDs, despite having 1210 fewer career carries. Davis also had half as many fumbles.BlazingArrow#9 said:
And to top it all off, Davis won 2 Super Bowls and was named Super Bowl MVP once, league MVP once, and NFL Offensive Player of the Year twice...
If Fisher did not go for two too early in the SB EG would have been SB MVP
But Davis did not make the precious 10K mark.
Davis only had 4 quality seasons and was plagued by injury. I am not even sure if he made the minimum number of seasons played to be considered for the HOF.
68 TDs for George 60 for Davis. Those last 8 are more then Davis got in his last 3 seasons.
George had 7 1000 plus rushing season. HOF is not about being a blip.
And if we had gotten the TO on the M Faulk TD reception that our safety ran up scream at the back judge to give us to only get a shoulder shrug the Titans would have won the SB too.
Davis only had 4 quality seasons and was plagued by injury. I am not even sure if he made the minimum number of seasons played to be considered for the HOF.
68 TDs for George 60 for Davis. Those last 8 are more then Davis got in his last 3 seasons.
George had 7 1000 plus rushing season. HOF is not about being a blip.
And if we had gotten the TO on the M Faulk TD reception that our safety ran up scream at the back judge to give us to only get a shoulder shrug the Titans would have won the SB too.
Now Now Sec330
EG had was pretty reliable after his rookie season. Yes his fumble at the end of the half in the AFCC game against the Raiderz turned out to be the turning point of the game, and yes he fumbled when the squeelers ear-holed him in another Playoff game, and yes he fumbled against Murdermore in the 2000 playoffs ....
wait were was I going with this - lol
EG had was pretty reliable after his rookie season. Yes his fumble at the end of the half in the AFCC game against the Raiderz turned out to be the turning point of the game, and yes he fumbled when the squeelers ear-holed him in another Playoff game, and yes he fumbled against Murdermore in the 2000 playoffs ....
wait were was I going with this - lol
Dang, this thread reminds me of the not so good old days of Mr E and the TOMB :sad2:
TitanJeff said:
The key word here is IMO. Because IMO and a lot of other folk's Opinions Mcnair too is DONE' I love the guy i truly do and i thank him for his past miracles, but i just did not see ANYTHING from him last year and very little from him the year before. Then you add in his age and lack of practices plus past injuries and I just don't see any way he improves after those last too seasons.
Yvette said:
Mr. E and GoTitans as well. That guy was the epitomy of hater.
Interesting thread. Just a few points all in one place (some have admitedly been made already in this thread)
1. Your CAP hit will be $13M even if you lose McNair.
2. IMHO, players do not deserve special consideration if they have restructured their contract. Players like McNair never lose money when they do this. They do it because they get something out of it, usually guaranteed money, & sometimes a raise as well. The way a restructure usually works is that the team offers the player a portion of his salary in guaranteed/bonus money. He wins because he knows that this portion is now his, no matter what and the team wins because it can pro-rate the restructure over more years, minimizing the CAP hit today. But the downside is that the team must pay the piper eventually. That is what the CAP hit is, the bookkeeping debt (it is not real dollars) coming due.
3. What is McNair worth to the Titans? This is the real question. Obviously the team thinks that $10M is too much. If they can't come to terms on a dollar figure that the team thinks is right, McNair will have to be traded or released. That is the bottom line.
4. If you lose McNair, then what? You now have Volek who has some injury issues and Young who is a couple of years away from being a viable starter. It seems to me that this creates the need for another solid veteran BU QB, but there aren't many of those left on the market.
JMO.
1. Your CAP hit will be $13M even if you lose McNair.
2. IMHO, players do not deserve special consideration if they have restructured their contract. Players like McNair never lose money when they do this. They do it because they get something out of it, usually guaranteed money, & sometimes a raise as well. The way a restructure usually works is that the team offers the player a portion of his salary in guaranteed/bonus money. He wins because he knows that this portion is now his, no matter what and the team wins because it can pro-rate the restructure over more years, minimizing the CAP hit today. But the downside is that the team must pay the piper eventually. That is what the CAP hit is, the bookkeeping debt (it is not real dollars) coming due.
3. What is McNair worth to the Titans? This is the real question. Obviously the team thinks that $10M is too much. If they can't come to terms on a dollar figure that the team thinks is right, McNair will have to be traded or released. That is the bottom line.
4. If you lose McNair, then what? You now have Volek who has some injury issues and Young who is a couple of years away from being a viable starter. It seems to me that this creates the need for another solid veteran BU QB, but there aren't many of those left on the market.
JMO.
Titans need to sit tight and see how the McMVP situation plays out.
But under no circumstances do the Titans need some washed up has been who is unfamiliar with the system. I for one would rather have Mauck ro VY than Collins, Blake, or whatever other bum might be available.
But under no circumstances do the Titans need some washed up has been who is unfamiliar with the system. I for one would rather have Mauck ro VY than Collins, Blake, or whatever other bum might be available.
We should see if O’Donnell wants to come back?
Then when Bironas get injured on some freak play trying to tackle someone we can pull Mort back and they can chat about the time before electricity and how they use to be able to get a hamburger for a $.05
Then when Bironas get injured on some freak play trying to tackle someone we can pull Mort back and they can chat about the time before electricity and how they use to be able to get a hamburger for a $.05
BlazingArrow#9 said:
:ha: Oh man... that was cold, dog. However, we do have a history of pulling retired players back in. The funny thing is, they usually wind up winning some key games for us. I do think that Volek can start for us and be successful until VY gets up to speed with the pros. As long as we have a great Oline, Volek can have a better passer rating than McNair had last season. Couple that with our new and improved running game (young powerback) and improved defense. I think the Titans can do well without McNair, if it comes to that. That's MO only, though.
Why dont you rip on earl and moon as well
yes, pathetic - luv-ya-blu is gone.
Starkiller said:
yes, pathetic - luv-ya-blu is gone.
Why dont you rip on earl and moon as well?
You talking to me? If you think that is what I am doing then you are dense. I'm willing to bet you didn't read hardly any of this thread...
You are the "official hater" are you not? I remember that being under your avi at one time... If you are going to call me out, then have the cajones to direct it squarely at me.
I'm upset McNair is going because I think the Titans would be better for having him. Do you have a problem with that or are you just going to stick with the drive by? It's an ugly situation and everyone has to struggle betwen rosy thoughts for McNair and the reality that exists. Don't you dare take a chip at my character because I can post something that can make NO SENSE in smack and have it dragged into the NFL talk forum... to be enetertained as real noteworthy crap. It's no reflection of me. It's the situation at hand... At least I've got my own way of dealing with.
You talking to me? If you think that is what I am doing then you are dense. I'm willing to bet you didn't read hardly any of this thread...
You are the "official hater" are you not? I remember that being under your avi at one time... If you are going to call me out, then have the cajones to direct it squarely at me.
I'm upset McNair is going because I think the Titans would be better for having him. Do you have a problem with that or are you just going to stick with the drive by? It's an ugly situation and everyone has to struggle betwen rosy thoughts for McNair and the reality that exists. Don't you dare take a chip at my character because I can post something that can make NO SENSE in smack and have it dragged into the NFL talk forum... to be enetertained as real noteworthy crap. It's no reflection of me. It's the situation at hand... At least I've got my own way of dealing with.
SEC 330 BIPOLAR said:
Ya im the "official hater" ok so its squared at you (whatever) take your pills and pipe down.... i dont drive by the hood or anywhere else trolling for fights.... I will take a shot at anyones character i want, or should I be scared that you might respond? get over your self importance... its a message forum, try taking a walk or breathing air... I dont like the posts ripping on one of our best players ever... how does that have anything to do with you, well lets see cuz you lose your mind when someone doesnt ride your jock like a carney ride on saturday night... ya you have got plenty to deal with alright, start with the message board bravado and work towards getting a script for everyting else.... ohh and i just got done reading this thread and you make alot of good points.
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