SUMMARY: According to Titans Coach Jeff Fisher, LB Peter Sirmon's job appears safe for now at middle linebacker despite quality play by rookie Stephen Tulloch. "Pete's obviously ahead because he understands the game, the concepts, the coverages, huddle calls and all those kind of things," Fisher said. "Stephen is still learning and he's not a repeat mistake-maker, which is good. He's learning and he's very athletic. He can line up and just instinctively find it without relying on an understanding of the scheme. Sometimes that's good and sometimes that's not good." Tulloch made six tackles while recovering a fumble playing with the second team defense on Saturday.
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Bah, I'm starting to come around to RollTide's thinking, maybe Schwartz isn't the only coach who has to go. How can you argue against performance figures?
Bottom line is Tulloch's been making plays and Sirmon has not; with all that "understanding of the game, the concepts, the coverages, huddle calls and all kind of things" Sirmon should make more plays than Tulloch, but he isn't. And it's not that he is physically slow, he's hesitant and that's a mental problem.
Bottom line is Tulloch's been making plays and Sirmon has not; with all that "understanding of the game, the concepts, the coverages, huddle calls and all kind of things" Sirmon should make more plays than Tulloch, but he isn't. And it's not that he is physically slow, he's hesitant and that's a mental problem.
Read Schwartz's comment though? He talks like he is very impressed with Tulloch.
Fisher said Tulloch made a big stride from the first game to the second. It appears that continued last Saturday. I would not be shocked to see him get some reps with the first team Friday night.
Unless they find they need the cap room, I think they'll keep Sirmon. I don't see Fisher taking his job away based on three preseason games. So I can understand why Fisher made the comment he did though I hope he'll consider options if Sirmon doesn't get it together soon.
Fisher said Tulloch made a big stride from the first game to the second. It appears that continued last Saturday. I would not be shocked to see him get some reps with the first team Friday night.
Unless they find they need the cap room, I think they'll keep Sirmon. I don't see Fisher taking his job away based on three preseason games. So I can understand why Fisher made the comment he did though I hope he'll consider options if Sirmon doesn't get it together soon.
Read Schwartz's comment though? He talks like he is very impressed with Tulloch.
Fisher said Tulloch made a big stride from the first game to the second. It appears that continued last Saturday. I would not be shocked to see him get some reps with the first team Friday night.
Unless they find they need the cap room, I think they'll keep Sirmon. I don't see Fisher taking his job away based on three preseason games. So I can understand why Fisher made the comment he did though I hope he'll consider options if Sirmon doesn't get it together soon.
Fisher said Tulloch made a big stride from the first game to the second. It appears that continued last Saturday. I would not be shocked to see him get some reps with the first team Friday night.
Unless they find they need the cap room, I think they'll keep Sirmon. I don't see Fisher taking his job away based on three preseason games. So I can understand why Fisher made the comment he did though I hope he'll consider options if Sirmon doesn't get it together soon.
TitanJeff said:Unless they find they need the cap room, I think they'll keep Sirmon. I don't see Fisher taking his job away based on three preseason games. So I can understand why Fisher made the comment he did though I hope he'll consider options if Sirmon doesn't get it together soon.
He doesn't need to cut Sirmon, just don't start him. Other teams use preseason to determine starters, why don't we?
The Titans are already paying too much for a part-time defensive player. No way would they keep him if all they wanted to do was use him as a backup and on special teams.Vigsted said:He doesn't need to cut Sirmon, just don't start him. Other teams use preseason to determine starters, why don't we?
Sirmon's base is around $2.5 mil this season, I believe. If they keep him, they better think he'll do well.
TitanJeff said:The Titans are already paying too much for a part-time defensive player. No way would they keep him if all they wanted to do was use him as a backup and on special teams.
Sirmon's base is around $2.5 mil this season, I believe. If they keep him, they better think he'll do well.
So? Let him sit and see if Tulloch does better, if so cut Sirmon, if not put him back in as the starter. Just because he has a 2.5 mil base doesn't mean you can't experiment with his position on the team.
keeping Sirmon as a starter cos of what he is paid is ridiculous.
We have Cap room, we are not desperate for the money. Bench him then release him at the end of the year.
We have Cap room, we are not desperate for the money. Bench him then release him at the end of the year.
If the Titans plan on benching him then why not release him? If the plan is to start Tulloch after the bye week, then you keep Sirmon but a lot can be done with his $1.5 mil cap savings if a DT or DE becomes available over the next couple of weeks.
IF there is no one there in FA, keep him as an emergency in case Tulloch gets hurt or isn't as good as thought.
Sirmon presents a problem. Unless he is a real good MLB he is being over paid. Even if he can stay the starter IMO he isn't good enough to warrant his paycheck. The other problem is that Sirmon is in his last contract year. Thats a problem because the only way to lower his CAP number is to give him an extension which I'm not sure we want to do. I doubt Sirmon would be willing to take a straight pay cut so any kind of new deal means we ink him for a couple of more years. Cutting Sirmon would save about 1.5 mil but then we have little depth at MLB and have to depend on a rookie.
I would predict the scenario will be to keep Sirmon the starter going into the season at his current salary and then based on his performance we may see Tulluck take over later in the season. Right now IMO they don't feel comfortable enough to cut Sirmon and hand the job to Tulluck.
Now if the organization really wanted to do what was the best for the team this year they would consider cutting Sirmon, use part of the CAP savings to find another vet MLB to add depth and play STs and hand Tulluck the job. With the other half of Sirmon's CAP savings we might find a DT/DE.
I would predict the scenario will be to keep Sirmon the starter going into the season at his current salary and then based on his performance we may see Tulluck take over later in the season. Right now IMO they don't feel comfortable enough to cut Sirmon and hand the job to Tulluck.
Now if the organization really wanted to do what was the best for the team this year they would consider cutting Sirmon, use part of the CAP savings to find another vet MLB to add depth and play STs and hand Tulluck the job. With the other half of Sirmon's CAP savings we might find a DT/DE.
What is not being considered here is that Sirmon plays a very pivotal role in setting up the defense on the field. That is why his knowledge and experience is so important. He is more or less the quarterback of the defense.
FanSince'87 said:What is not being considered here is that Sirmon plays a very pivotal role in setting up the defense on the field. That is why his knowledge and experience is so important. He is more or less the quarterback of the defense.
With the way our D's been playing for the last couple of years, maybe that's just another reason for him to go...
And considering people are saying Bulluck was the one getting the signals from the sideline and making the audibles (see Thornton's comment on his sack), I'd say Sirmon isn't the playcaller on D anymore.
Unfortunately this just shows complete stupidity on the part of our coaching staff. So, you don't bench a guy because he has the knowledge of your defensive schemes? Well, why don't you either A: Get Tulloch up to speed on your plays. or B: Make sure another person calls the plays.
I am getting sick and tired of this coaching staff. Fisher heres a little something for ya. :moon2:
I am getting sick and tired of this coaching staff. Fisher heres a little something for ya. :moon2:
when the twos are in stephen tulloch is the one getting the plays from the sideline and is makes the defensive calls.FanSince'87 said:What is not being considered here is that Sirmon plays a very pivotal role in setting up the defense on the field. That is why his knowledge and experience is so important. He is more or less the quarterback of the defense.
Maybe they should fire Schwartz, and replace him with Sirmon?FanSince'87 said:What is not being considered here is that Sirmon plays a very pivotal role in setting up the defense on the field. That is why his knowledge and experience is so important. He is more or less the quarterback of the defense.
:banana:
this is just stupid, tulloch is obviously the better player and they wont start him because sirmon is a vet, this is makin me mad
Vigsted said:With the way our D's been playing for the last couple of years, maybe that's just another reason for him to go...
lol
I agree what a backhanded compliment
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