O.k. I misspelled his name but you all know who I'm talking about. Clutch boy.
This may be premature, but if the Patriots don't resign their kicker would you want him as a Titan?
He is supposed to be expensive. But expensive for a kicker is still cheap against your cap, usually. I would like to see Vinateiri as a Titan. I just wasn't sold on Bironas last year (missed xps?). My concern with Adam V. is his age, he will be 34 this year.
This may be premature, but if the Patriots don't resign their kicker would you want him as a Titan?
He is supposed to be expensive. But expensive for a kicker is still cheap against your cap, usually. I would like to see Vinateiri as a Titan. I just wasn't sold on Bironas last year (missed xps?). My concern with Adam V. is his age, he will be 34 this year.
I don't watch many Pats games. How is he on kickoffs? At his age, that would be my concern. I don't want to be in a position where we have a kickoff specialist taking up a roster spot and having Craig kickoff isn't the answer either.
I'm not sold on Bironas myself and I think we should bring in competition, but I'm not sure this is the answer.
I'm not sold on Bironas myself and I think we should bring in competition, but I'm not sure this is the answer.
I think a solid kicker is the last piece you fill when trying to build a contender.
Titans have too many priorities in front of that.
Titans have too many priorities in front of that.
Hoffa said:
a good Kicker can make a difference between a few wins or losses.
true ,but its best we get the positions were lacking firstGunny said:
Sure, if you have a good enough team to keep it close.Gunny said:
Get good first, then plug in the solid kicker last. Titans have been far from good the past couple years.
MadAboutMcNair said:
Did you forget we had Gary Anderson for 2 years? Isnt he around 80?:ha:
Does anyone have any idea how many supplemental picks the Titans will be receiving this year?
The success we had with G Anderson was one of the reasons I think it would be cool to get Vinatieri. I don't remember his kickoffs last season, whether they were good or not.
You guys have made a good point about us needing other things more. I just think you can steal a few wins on special teams. And I am getting sick of losing. Anything that will help, I would welcome at this point. I would even take Ricky Williams, Randy Moss, or T.O. :banned:
You guys have made a good point about us needing other things more. I just think you can steal a few wins on special teams. And I am getting sick of losing. Anything that will help, I would welcome at this point. I would even take Ricky Williams, Randy Moss, or T.O. :banned:
Anderson was horrible in KO situtations.
Seems like Hentrich made KO's too... that's how poor Anderson was.
Gary was very accurate but his range was short cause he's old as dirt.
He's so old he farts dust.
Seems like Hentrich made KO's too... that's how poor Anderson was.
Gary was very accurate but his range was short cause he's old as dirt.
He's so old he farts dust.
still out there..would be nice for every kick not to be an adventure
SEC 330 BIPOLAR said:
Um, how old are you? :irked:
I know a few old farts that will stomp the hell out of any young punks, so let's lay off the age thing. Football may be a game for spring chickens, but us "old farts" are the ones with the credit to support it.
That's not the kind of attitude you should be taking to Hawaii...avvie said:
:ha:
With the way we are throwing $$ around, why not sign the best kicker? We certainly won't draft one...Bironis was a pleasant surprise, but what will he do when the kicks actually mean something?
Gee, I thought we were pals. I've had my first grey hair these past two years. I feel from time to time I'm getting a little long in the tooth myself but since you ask my dob is listed in my profile.avvie said:
SEC 330 BIPOLAR
That's 28 years 1 month and 2 1/2 weeks...
or this many...
5 5 5 5 5 3
I may be 28 but I've got the credit to support my psls. I don't really see what that has to do with it. I buy beer that pays for ad revenue on TV. I raz around with GoT and fitantitans like that because I feel like I'm getting old myself. Ten years ago I was legal to buy tobbaco and now I've got a job I've been at for 9 years, a wife, a child, a mortgage, health insurance payments, the whole she-bang. I've got a field agent from the Kinghts of Columbus who wants to put me in a whole life policy. (in case I die) ...
But honestly, do you have any idea just how old Gary Anderson is?
Born: Jul 16, 1959
ok, maybe that's only 46 nearly 47, but he looks older than that.
Actually, he doesn't even really look all that bad at all.
He still had a lot more leg 20 years ago...you know, during the Regan Administration.
He was kicking for the Steelers when I was 4 years old.
That's like a quarter century in the NFL...
That's some ESPN classic :banned:
All of that aside, I'm sorry.
It was nice having Bironas's leg on kickoffs last year. I think most young kickers grow into consistency and bironas should work his way up the learning curve.
Anyhow, our kickers have to make so many tackles that he'll probably get hurt at some point and we'll be on the search again:sad2:
Anyhow, our kickers have to make so many tackles that he'll probably get hurt at some point and we'll be on the search again:sad2:
Bironas had some pretty good kickoffs last year so i'm sold on that. Adam would be a great signing, we know what he can do, heck he has 2 Super Bowl winning kicks.
I think we should keep Bironas, if he's crap next year, chokes etc, then we should think about getting a game winning kicker, but right now we have our priorites set
And that does not invlove getting a place-kicker.
I think we should keep Bironas, if he's crap next year, chokes etc, then we should think about getting a game winning kicker, but right now we have our priorites set
And that does not invlove getting a place-kicker.
Bironas was 79% last year on FG attempt. Vinateire was 80%
Bironas was 2 for 5 over 50 yards. Vinateire was 0 for 2 (which means Bironas was as accurate as Vinateire on the others).
Bironas missed 2 XPs, Vinateire missed one.
Bironas averaged 64 yards on KOs with a return average of 22.6.
Vinateire averaged 61.7 and 21.9.
In other words Bironas was not any less the kicker last year. This idea Vinateire is going to be a big upgrade is simply a fantasy.
Bironas was 2 for 5 over 50 yards. Vinateire was 0 for 2 (which means Bironas was as accurate as Vinateire on the others).
Bironas missed 2 XPs, Vinateire missed one.
Bironas averaged 64 yards on KOs with a return average of 22.6.
Vinateire averaged 61.7 and 21.9.
In other words Bironas was not any less the kicker last year. This idea Vinateire is going to be a big upgrade is simply a fantasy.
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