What was once overpaying isn't anymore. The cap has gone up dramatically. Whenever that happens, salaries also go up. We're just seeing the new price of doing business in the NFL.
Sure, some of the contracts signed so far were pretty extravagant. But that's the norm for guys who sign in the first say or 2 of free agency.
Sure, some of the contracts signed so far were pretty extravagant. But that's the norm for guys who sign in the first say or 2 of free agency.
Maybe, maybe not. I'm just saying that "market value" has gone up with the new salary cap. Realistically, it's gone up about 10%.
Starkiller said:
so Givens should be worth about $15 mil over 7 years
he's the next Pickens / Thigpen
How did you come up with those numbers?Puck said:
My 10% is actually as compared to what the salary cap would have been a week ago under the old CBA. If you want to compare with last offseason, the cap has actually gone up 19% in the span of 1 year (from $85.5M to $102M). And next year it will be about $107M, which would be $25% in 2 years.
Starkiller said:
sarcasm
Givens isn't worth $25 over 5
let him earn his $25 through incentives and bonuses
i wouldn't guarantee him more than 2-3 per
$25M now was worth roughly $20M had he signed last offseason. I think you'll find that that's not too insane, especially in a market devoid of top WRs.
I understand some of the cap increase was used up by minimum salary increases also. For some reason I thought the cap was $94mil this year though.
smili said:
yeah the minimum salaries have increased and I think 94 million was what it was going to be without a new CBA.
SK...nice to see you've come around. We're a little late to the party IMO, but I am glad to see us doing something. Any coincidence that you've changed your tune as we are actually making a few moves?
because we want to get back to winning 10-12 games a year! :thumb:
KVB is a steal...as long as his knees don't blow out and end his career.
Puck said:
I am all for a good contract that is less than what he wants, plus incentives to push him to where he wants, or even a little over it.
Basically, if he's going to produce over 1000 yards a season, then I'm for paying him like it. Shoot, if he produces close and helps Bennett produce like he did in Mason's last year, I'd almost be for it, too.
yeah G
if the guy can come in and by next year be grab 70+ and sniff 850+ .....
and if he can convert 50+ first downs like in '04
then I wouldn't mind letting him roll in some dough
but I don't like contributing a large sum to a career #2
now, since we're on discussion of "maybe it'll work" I'll offer this
Eric Moulds
if the guy can come in and by next year be grab 70+ and sniff 850+ .....
and if he can convert 50+ first downs like in '04
then I wouldn't mind letting him roll in some dough
but I don't like contributing a large sum to a career #2
now, since we're on discussion of "maybe it'll work" I'll offer this
Eric Moulds
Come around to what? I said they didn't have to sign anyone immediately and that they should get good value. As I said to begin this thread, what looks like overpaying in some cases is actually close to market value now, it's just that prices have gone up due to inflation (if you will).royhobbs said:
That's not to say that all the deals are for market value. The big names still do get overpaid right away. That's just the way it is.
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