http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/columns/story?columnist=smith_michael&id=2370929
What's up with that ? Maybe get your QB of the future and draft Mario Williams ?
What's up with that ? Maybe get your QB of the future and draft Mario Williams ?
Makes you wonder if the Titans have their eye on someone other than a QB with that #3 pick.
KobeChaz said:
It makes you wonder just how high GMs are on this QB class I think. THe saints opted to pass on a QB through the draft it looks like, the Jets are more interested in Ramsey than drafting a QB it appears, and now we have at least talked about Culpepper and now Schaub. With all these teams who have the opportunity for one of the stud QBs in the draft looking in other places, I think it says something about them maybe not being sold on any of these guys this high up in the draft.
Send Volek for a 3rd, then get Shuab. This kids gonna be good. Then draft Mario Williams!
i dont see what the big fuss is about mario williams. he has all the size and speed in the world, but he never produced consistently.
I wouldn't mind getting Schuab then taking D'Brick if the Saints don't.
I agree if the titans dont draft qb and brick is there tackle is there only o-line spot still not exacxtly set with roos on the left now and no proven player on the right why not go for the brick if you dont go qb a 2nd round MLB and a 3rd round RB/safety then maybe a 4th or 5th round qb we still have mac and volek so a steal like an omar jacobs in the 3rd or even ingle martin if those guys slip that far but a tackle is more of a guarantee as far as draft guarantees go so who knows this draft anticapation is nuts i love ittheprizdfighter said:
I brought up last year a scenario of trading for Schaub... and if it was a swap first pick's, Volek for Schaub and the Falcons' third... I would do it in a heartbeat.
To be honest, I wanted the Titans to draft Schaub back when he came out. But that aside, I don't know about this. Sure, he's had some impressive starts and alot safer than drafting one of the top 3, but isn't he somewhat in the Billy Volek category, just younger and cheaper? Think about it, Billy's had some impressive games when starting too, but it doesn't mean he's starting material. Sure drafting a QB in the top round can be a crap shoot, but in this business you have to gamble, don't you? I mean Atlanta got Vick, Indy got Peyton, Pitt got Rothelisburger, We got Mac at 3, New York got Eli, Philly got McNabb, etc.....see where I'm going with this? Of course there's been the crap shoots (see Cincinati and Smith or San Diego and Leaf), but in this business/league the term "No Guts, No Glory" really applies well, doesn't it?
EDIT: Also, anyone have an account over at Titanscentral.net? If so, could someone see if Bongo has any "Intel" on this link to Shaub?
EDIT: Also, anyone have an account over at Titanscentral.net? If so, could someone see if Bongo has any "Intel" on this link to Shaub?
Joey Harrington probably will be released as well. I think he can flourish with another team. I don't know if it would be with the Titans, but I'm just throwing that out there.
Your right he is in the same category as Volek, just YOUNGER and cheaper. We want someone that can be the future QB. Volek probably would only have a good two, three years left in him, while Schaub could have six, seven years.
Your right he is in the same category as Volek, just YOUNGER and cheaper. We want someone that can be the future QB. Volek probably would only have a good two, three years left in him, while Schaub could have six, seven years.
It's a smoke screen. Not that it'll work, but we're showing interest in other options to keep the Saints asking price for the #2 pick down. The Jets are doing the same thing. The Saints will be selling to the highest bidder.
this is too wierd...It looks as if dg1979us was right... that is unless Brian and I are right... It feels so wierd siding with Brian...:ha:Brian said:
Brian said:
WHy would this keep the price for the #2 pick down? The only way it seems to me that it would stay down would be if we actually did get Schaub. If we show that we are definately interested in a young QB, but we dont get Schaub, doesnt that just raise the price of the #2 pick? Wouldnt teams be even more convinced we would take Leinart here? Not sure I get your logic, seems to me this only insures that we are definately in the market for a young QB, and if we dont have one before the draft then they we would be likely to take one with the 3rd pick.
Unless your thinking that it shows we arent interested in any of the QBs in the draft, then I guess I can understand your point, but not sure thats how the Saints, or how teams willing to trade up would look at it.
:applause:dg1979us said:
Kinda the same as showing interest in other options. It's called a bluff.....or "smokescreen".
Brian said:
I can understand that, but a smokescreen only works depending on how other teams perceive it.
By showing interest in both Culpepper and Schaub we have shown that we are interested in acquiring a qb of the future correct?
So, if we dont get Schaub, then wont the saints take it that we will take Leinart? Meaning that drives up the price. The only way the price goes down is if other teams dont think we will take Leinart, and I understand your logic that we are showing interest elsewhere, but we are also showing that we are serious about acquiring a QB for the future. So, I dont see this smokescreen doing anything but driving up the price of the pick.
And why do we want the price down anyway? The only way I could see wanting the price of the #2 pick to be lower is if we are trying to take Ferguson and we hope the Saints trade out thinking we wont take him. If we do want Leinart, then we should want the Saints to ask for a lot for their pick to make it less likely that someone will swoop in and get him before we are able to.
Basically, I think there is/was a genuine interest in what it would take to get Schaub, I dont see how a smokescreen benefits us in the least.
If we act interested in Schaub, then the #2 loses its value because nobody has to trade ahead of us to get a QB...The QBs will just fall (a la' Aaron Rodgers last year)
Dude, I've said it before and I'll say it again: I wouldn't sit down to play poker with Floyd Reese if the buy in was $50 and the pot size was $1000.
Dude, I've said it before and I'll say it again: I wouldn't sit down to play poker with Floyd Reese if the buy in was $50 and the pot size was $1000.
Banshee2 said:
IT doesnt lose its value unless we actually get Schaub. How does showing interest in a young QB like Schaub lower the price if we dont actually get Schaub? The Falcons wont part with Schaub unless they get picks, so if this happens it happens before the draft. If we dont have a QB of the future type guy before the draft, then it only gives the impression that Leinart is the pick, so the price is driven up, not driven down.
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