Lanky?
I'm 6'5", 230 pounds myself, and I don't consider myself lanky... true, I'm sure he has a lot more muscle than I do...
I'm 6'5", 230 pounds myself, and I don't consider myself lanky... true, I'm sure he has a lot more muscle than I do...
I think this ends Voleks tenure with the Titans, I bet the trade talks will start soon.
TitanJeff said:
I'm sure he's been looking at our playbook as long as McNair has been looking at the Ravens.:yes:
I don't know if Young will be inactive or not for some early games. We'll see. With Givens, Bennett, Wade should give him lots of options. I'm sure Chow had a lot to do with this.
DynamoSupremo said:
Should have traded him to the Jets last year. His value was at an all-time high then.
Never going to hear the end of this in CA. I can already hear Raider fans mocking us.
I'm not a Collins fan at all. But I certainly see the reasoning why this was done. VY is no where near game ready. This makes sure that he is not thrown in over his head to early. This also makes it possible for us to deal a QB if some other team has a rash of injuries. We could now deal either Collins or Volek for something if we wanted to and the need came up.
It will make the game day active roster interesting. I could see Collins being listed as the emergency 3rd QB and VY being the #2 guy. This would allow VY to run his package plays if the situation called for it. If Volek goes down with a game ending injury well then you could go with Collins and VY couldn't play unless Collins went down.
If someone knows the exact details on how the 3rd QB works then educate us because I certainly don't know if what I proposed is possible.
It will make the game day active roster interesting. I could see Collins being listed as the emergency 3rd QB and VY being the #2 guy. This would allow VY to run his package plays if the situation called for it. If Volek goes down with a game ending injury well then you could go with Collins and VY couldn't play unless Collins went down.
If someone knows the exact details on how the 3rd QB works then educate us because I certainly don't know if what I proposed is possible.
I don't see why Collins would sign to be the #3.Titans2004 said:
Once the #3 comes in, I don't think you can play either of the active QBs again.
Good signing! He can't be any worse than VOLEK, because Volek SUCKS!
Maybe with a decent line he'd suffice for a season (& I stress SUFFICE,) but he's made of tissue paper, & if'n he starts the season ... he'll be inactive within three weeks due to broken stuff, & suckness.
& Vince needs seasoning. Can't throw him to the lions that quickly. It's not the Fisher way.
GOOD SIGNING! We had no choice in the matter.
Maybe with a decent line he'd suffice for a season (& I stress SUFFICE,) but he's made of tissue paper, & if'n he starts the season ... he'll be inactive within three weeks due to broken stuff, & suckness.
& Vince needs seasoning. Can't throw him to the lions that quickly. It's not the Fisher way.
GOOD SIGNING! We had no choice in the matter.
I admit, this signing makes me woozy. HOWEVER, I think the logic behind it is not that divergent from what Fisher has said regarding Vince. He wants to preserve the starter ROLE, and not be forced to throw VY into it, even though he plans on playing VY as a type of 3rd down back, if you will, throughout to get him experience.
Now, as to WHO, exactly, is assuming that starter role, is irrelevant to VY's role--neither Volek nor Collins is a long-term option anyways. So, whoever can give the rest of the team the best chance of developing is who should take the #1. This is more about players like Givens and Troupe than Vince--so that they're ready when Vince is ready.
Now, as to WHO, exactly, is assuming that starter role, is irrelevant to VY's role--neither Volek nor Collins is a long-term option anyways. So, whoever can give the rest of the team the best chance of developing is who should take the #1. This is more about players like Givens and Troupe than Vince--so that they're ready when Vince is ready.
All these good reasons to sign Collins were there to sign him before Camp.
I just don't know why they've waited this long to bring him in now.
I just don't know why they've waited this long to bring him in now.
Why #9?
We got collins as a stop gap backup in case volek goes down. The raiders got him as their franchise QB.
He came a lot cheaper for us then he did for them. We almost got him for nothing.
We got a backup QB who has started 150 nfl games. What the hell? He has more career TDs than ints and actually made a pro bowl once and led a team to a super bowl.
He has playoff experience and actually won more games than he lost in the post season.
It's all a matter of perspective. As a starter he is maybe the 25th-30th best QB but he is one of the better backups. We are paying chump change and didn't give up anything for him.
Good move...
We got collins as a stop gap backup in case volek goes down. The raiders got him as their franchise QB.
He came a lot cheaper for us then he did for them. We almost got him for nothing.
We got a backup QB who has started 150 nfl games. What the hell? He has more career TDs than ints and actually made a pro bowl once and led a team to a super bowl.
He has playoff experience and actually won more games than he lost in the post season.
It's all a matter of perspective. As a starter he is maybe the 25th-30th best QB but he is one of the better backups. We are paying chump change and didn't give up anything for him.
Good move...
As far as the timing, how do we know that the Titans made the move instead of Collins finally accepting a take-it-or-leave-it offer the Titans had on the table all along?
I think signing Collins would have made sense if the Titans were planning on being in playoff contention this season. I know its only the preseason, but there certainly aren't many signs of the Titans being a playoff team this season. I don't see a reason to bring in Collins, Volek should be under center until we fall out of contention, then let VY take over and get some valuable experience. The Titans could be filling other holes instead with that money, even if its not alot.
I agree with Tide. No way the Raider fans have any reason to mock us considering Collins is as good as their starting QB and at one time they thought Collins was the savior who would take them to the promised land. Now he is a backup.
For those who think this is the end of Volek I'm not so sure about that. Volek is still our best QB for now. Heck, last game he could of had almost 200 yards passing in one half if not for the 40 yarder that got called back. Add in that our WRs haven't been ripping it up so far and our OL and run game stink Volek has done about as well as we should expect. How about that perfectly thrown bomb to Bennett? I seriously doubt that Collins is being brought in because they have issues with Volek. more than likely after Young banged his hand on a helmet and also twisted his ankle they realized that they were only a couple of plays away from having Mauck as the starter.
For those who think this is the end of Volek I'm not so sure about that. Volek is still our best QB for now. Heck, last game he could of had almost 200 yards passing in one half if not for the 40 yarder that got called back. Add in that our WRs haven't been ripping it up so far and our OL and run game stink Volek has done about as well as we should expect. How about that perfectly thrown bomb to Bennett? I seriously doubt that Collins is being brought in because they have issues with Volek. more than likely after Young banged his hand on a helmet and also twisted his ankle they realized that they were only a couple of plays away from having Mauck as the starter.
TJ- Obviously Collins didn't sign to be the #3 QB, but from a semantics standpoint he could be listed as our #3 on gameday. That way VY could get his few snaps a game. If Volek truely got hurt then you could just bring in Collins. This of course would inactivate VY and if Collins got hurt we would really be in deep trouble.
Fans won't be happy with VY as the 3rd QB knowing that he won't see action. Fans and Bud want to see VY. Even if it is just for a few snaps. Having VY active will keep butts in the seats late in the game even if it is a blowout because fans will want to see our future play.
Fans won't be happy with VY as the 3rd QB knowing that he won't see action. Fans and Bud want to see VY. Even if it is just for a few snaps. Having VY active will keep butts in the seats late in the game even if it is a blowout because fans will want to see our future play.
Titans2004 said:
What are you talking about, both Drew and Craig can play QB
)A few months ago I was opossed to bringing in Collins, but after the last couple of games, I feel like we need to bring in a whole boatload of new blood...
Maybe they'll be fast learners...
As far as a playoff run, stranger things have happened...But I'm beginning to think the staff and FO are just trying to avoid last place in the division.
Hope I'm wrong
Maybe they'll be fast learners...
As far as a playoff run, stranger things have happened...But I'm beginning to think the staff and FO are just trying to avoid last place in the division.
Hope I'm wrong
But once Collins goes in, Young can't. But I see where you are coming from.Titans2004 said:
At this point, I think anything can happen. I'm waiting to hear Fisher's comments on this signing.
I agree with RollTide and Hoffa we need a decent backup regardless which one starts I just wish we would have signed him earlier. However we don't want to miss the best thing about siging Collins! Drew is going nuts right now. Maybe he will have a nervous brekdown worrying about how much money he will lose if Collins becomes the starter. Anything thats bad for Drew is great for the rest of us.
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