SUMMARY: QB Billy Volek is willing to waive his no-trade clause in his contract so the Titans can trade him. He has already seen his reps reduced as the team puts Kerry Collins through a crash course. There is the possibility Volek will not travel to Green Bay for tomorrow's preseason finale. There figures to be a healthy market for Volek, who has been regarded as one of the NFL's top backups for the last several years, but who failed to secure the confidence of the Tennessee coaching staff in camp or in the preseason. Among the several teams which might be interested in adding Volek, whose resume includes 10 starts, are San Diego and Cleveland.
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Billy is as good as gone. After bringing in Collins, it's probably for the best. Keeps the locker room less divided...And gives Billy a fresh start somewhere else.
I've thought alot about this, and I believe it wasn't just the coaches who didn't have confidence in Volek....several weeks back Mawae, was quoted saying something to the effect..." you need to get better in a hurry...at my age I don't have much time"--to VY
That disturbed me...it seemed that he had no confidence in Billy's ability--I figured he should know as well as anybody when he had a winning (or losing) QB
I've thought alot about this, and I believe it wasn't just the coaches who didn't have confidence in Volek....several weeks back Mawae, was quoted saying something to the effect..." you need to get better in a hurry...at my age I don't have much time"--to VY
That disturbed me...it seemed that he had no confidence in Billy's ability--I figured he should know as well as anybody when he had a winning (or losing) QB
Trade him to San Diego for Donnie Edwards then trade Sirmon for a draft pick.
This is just wrong.
The answer was to give him his shot, and let him stand or fall.
Trading him gets rid a player that was turned into a malcontent by a bungling managment staff. And that is all that can really be said about it.
Signing Collins was a bone-headed move. It absolutely causes me to be disgusted with the home team. I hope Collins fails quickly and permanently. No team should be cursed with him.
The answer was to give him his shot, and let him stand or fall.
Trading him gets rid a player that was turned into a malcontent by a bungling managment staff. And that is all that can really be said about it.
Signing Collins was a bone-headed move. It absolutely causes me to be disgusted with the home team. I hope Collins fails quickly and permanently. No team should be cursed with him.
Slackmaster said:
Let me ask you something? Have you been at every practice? The reason I ask is because it's easy for insurance agents, and doctors, and trash men, and mechanics to know what the professional football coach and staff should do. They knew what they needed to see from Volek, and apparently they didn't see it. They do this for a living. I'll trust they know what they're doing.
Billy did make the trip to Green Bay.
Fat Lenny did report that Volek has waived his no trade clause.
Fat Lenny did report that Volek has waived his no trade clause.
ShoTym said:
Hell no, I have not been at every practice.
I think the team shafted Volek.
Does someone who thought that the team shafted McNair earlier in the year need to be a "football professional" to feel that he got the shaft back then? Hell no.
And I refuse to believe for a nanosecond that any "professional" who "knows what they are doing" would even consider signing Collins.
So you go right ahead and trust the professionals know what they are doing.
They have a great track record lately, don't you think?
But if you want to be consistant, then you will refrain from expressing yourself unless you are a football professional who has been to every practice yourself. Or you will shut up about it when other "non-professional" dare to express themselves.
He had his shot and didn't perform well enough to keep the FO and coaches from having to bring someone else in to give the team a better chance to win. I as a Titan fan I appreciate this "bungling mangement staff" for having the guts to make a tough decision and doing whats best for the team. I don't know if Collins is any better or not but I am sure we can't come close to winning with BV the way he has playedand I don't believe any real Titans fans hopes our QB fails whoever it is.
Sorry you don't believe that Collins is better than Volek. Every stat you look at Collins is better. He's been to a Superbowl (yes so has Billy but that was just to watch), he's won Championship games, oh yeah he threw over 3800 yards with the Raiders and a bum Randy Moss all year.Slackmaster said:
I'm a Volek supporter since he went to college here in Fresno, I just think he's not getting it done. I can't say Collins will, but a little QB competition isn't a bad thing, wanting to leave because someone else came in is a bad thing. I hope he does well where ever he might land in the future, and i hope we get something good out of him for it.
Slackmaster, at first I thought Volek got shafted but after thinking this through I'm beggining to think just the oppositite. The Titans could have and with hind sight should have brought Collins in at the start of camp with the idea of the best man winning the starting job. However, they didn't bring in anyone and basically gave Volek the starting job. It was his to lose for this year. Volek didn't respond the way they had hoped. Certainly the coaches didn't want or expect this to happen. IMO they gave Billy his shot.
With that said I'm not sure the coaches are all that sold on Collins being the starting QB this year. With Volek not proving himself it looks like Young will have a shot at playing alot this year. Would it be better to say to Billy now that he is being demoted to a backup role or to let him move on? Either way Volek is going to be upset, there is going to be friction and Young ends up not being mentored. Collins gives them both a mentor (with significant experience as an NFL QB) and insurance.
Look at this from Chow's and Fisher's point of view. Both are on the hot seat. First of all they want a QB who can run their offense. Believe it or not, agree with it or not, both don't think Volek is the guy. He has been given the opportunity and he failed in their eyes. They are the ones accountable at seasons end. If they feel like Collins can do a better job of playing QB, mentoring Young and helping this team in the long and short term I stand by their decision. Do what is best for the team.
I don't feel sorry for Volek. He will make over a mil per year wherever he ends up (he will be somewhere) and may even get another shot again.
With that said I'm not sure the coaches are all that sold on Collins being the starting QB this year. With Volek not proving himself it looks like Young will have a shot at playing alot this year. Would it be better to say to Billy now that he is being demoted to a backup role or to let him move on? Either way Volek is going to be upset, there is going to be friction and Young ends up not being mentored. Collins gives them both a mentor (with significant experience as an NFL QB) and insurance.
Look at this from Chow's and Fisher's point of view. Both are on the hot seat. First of all they want a QB who can run their offense. Believe it or not, agree with it or not, both don't think Volek is the guy. He has been given the opportunity and he failed in their eyes. They are the ones accountable at seasons end. If they feel like Collins can do a better job of playing QB, mentoring Young and helping this team in the long and short term I stand by their decision. Do what is best for the team.
I don't feel sorry for Volek. He will make over a mil per year wherever he ends up (he will be somewhere) and may even get another shot again.
fltitan said:
Why do people keep saying this? SD want a 1st rounder or 2nd rounder at the least for Edwards, and Volek isn't worth anything more than a 3rd TOPS, probably more a 4th or 5th. You'd also think his value drops when he gets sacked 1½ week before the openning game...
My beef with signing Collins isn't whether he's better than Volek, I'm sure he is. I just don't see the point, since it's not like a QB like Collins is going to be the difference between 5-11 and 8-8. For that to happen we need a running game and an O-line that plays consistently on every down.
Maybe if we throw in Chris Brown on that trade they'll toss in LT?? just a thought...:lol:fltitan said:
2ToneBlue said:
Except for completion %, td/int ratio, and passer rating?
I don't know if Collins is better, but I doubt he's much better if he is. I don't mind bringing him in.
Kerry has 5% less completion %, that's with thowing 10x as much as Volek has. Not a stat I would say is better, Collins throws down field a lot which leads to picks, but you're right his TD ratio is better.Bobo said:
Passer rating? Come on Billy's started 10 games in his entire life. He's never really got a shot at succeeding or failing. His ratings are:
2001: 39.6 (0 starts)
2003: 101 (1 start, sounds like an MVP year
) )2004: 87.1 (8 games started)
2005: 77.6 (1 start)
I'd not be too quick to say his passer rating is better, it's an illusion.
Hey Slackmaster, Did Kerry Collins kick your dog or sleep with your wife? You seem pretty down on the guy and I am not sure why. He had a solid year last year with a bad team, had solid career numbers (very comparable to McNairs), has been to two confernece championship games, and one SB. Why do you hate this guy so much? Just currious really. I for one am ok with him coming in but I would like to see both him and Volek around.
That gets me to my second point. Why are we all so certain that Volek is gone? Has anyone in the front office said that? All I am hearing is Volek is the starter still and he will starte vs. the Jets in week one. Any evidence that shows Billy is out the door? We have a lack of experience at the QB position and Collins gives us that. Why can't he just be insurance if things go wrong down the stretch?
That gets me to my second point. Why are we all so certain that Volek is gone? Has anyone in the front office said that? All I am hearing is Volek is the starter still and he will starte vs. the Jets in week one. Any evidence that shows Billy is out the door? We have a lack of experience at the QB position and Collins gives us that. Why can't he just be insurance if things go wrong down the stretch?
I'd trade Volek for the first run-stuffing DT offered if Collins looks good tomorrow night.
2ToneBlue said:Kerry has 5% less completion %, that's with thowing 10x as much as Volek has. Not a stat I would say is better, Collins throws down field a lot which leads to picks, but you're right his TD ratio is better.
Passer rating? Come on Billy's started 10 games in his entire life. He's never really got a shot at succeeding or failing. His ratings are:
2001: 39.6 (0 starts)
2003: 101 (1 start, sounds like an MVP year
2004: 87.1 (8 games started)
2005: 77.6 (1 start)
I'd not be too quick to say his passer rating is better, it's an illusion.
I don't see how # of times throwing can be used in your arguement. You can say he has more experience....but he hasn't gotten any better with age.
Passer rating is the same deal as above.
Collins has been a below average starter for his career, and Billy may be the same if he plays as long, and his play goes down (which brings his stats down)....but no one can say yet. But you brought up "every" stat being better, which simply isn't true.
I want to see Collins play with our O to judge him against Billy, regardless of these stats.
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