I’m talking about JR’s rhetoric. “We’d like to sign him but…” that feels the same not their individual circumstances. If we really wanted Conklin, we would have massaged the cap like they are going to have to this year. I don’t think they franchise Landry, and I’m not confident we get him back. I hope we do, but not expecting it.
The problem with the tag is that I think you have to eat the whole thing cap-wise in that year if he isn’t signed.
Conklin: "We'd like to sign him, but......"
...and the but is that he told us to go eff ourselves.
Landry: "We'd like to sign him, but......."
...and the but is that we need to move numbers around.
At what time do we have to be under the cap? It's not until final cuts right? I mean, we could tag him/sign him then figure it out down the road.
I just don't want him to end up on a division rival like the Colts.
I just don't want him to end up on a division rival like the Colts.
Anyone ever get the idea that Conklin didn't mesh well in the locker room? Ever hear Lewan talk about Conklin as being "a boy"? You'd think a couple of white first round tackles would be best buddies.
we have to be under the cap by the start of the league yr which is March 16th. so technically I guess we could tag him and still use this week to negotiate and if we don't like where things are going then we could take the tag off of him
Even with a tag, we could simply cut Saffold, Jenkins, and Lamm to create that space needed to get under the cap. Of course, that leaves with very little room to work with in FA, but you worry about that down the line.
But ultimately, I am not optimistic about us tagging Landry at this point. I don't understand why either. If you don't want to re-sign him, tag him and trade him. Someone will undoubtedly take his services. If you do want to keep him, tag him and try to work out a deal. There legit is no downside in tagging him unless he gets hurt in a freak accident between now and August, which you run that risk with every player.
I know from a cap standpoint that the tag number hits the Titans at the start of the league yr. Usually players don't sign the offer because they want to continue to negotiate for a long term deal. So if Landry were to blow out a knee working out and he had not signed the contract then couldn't the Titans rescind the tag and thus not be on the hook.
I totally agree that we can easily get under the cap with a few roster moves...we will know in a few hours, but I say tag him even if to just buy more time to negotiate....take him off the market before the legal tampering period and let other teams go ahead and fill their edge rush needs.
Just think, if we had drafted Landry in the 1st round instead of Evans, we would have him for his 5th year this year. That would have made things so much easier.
Hopefully this means we are really working on a long term deal. Doubt it though. This sucks.
Landry>>>>>>>>>>bud Dupree
Landry>>>>>>>>>>bud Dupree
Not shocked. First, because tags are very hard to make cap friendly, and second, I have never felt we were all in on Landry. I believe JR thinks he can replace him cheaper and may even think he already has with Weaver. And before get piled on with Weaver comments, I said I believe JR thinks that not me.
Landry was an average player before his contract year. That’s a big red flag. Especially in today’s NFL.
On the other hand, he's only 25 and may be breaking out. But he seems like someone that needs to have another good pass rusher opposite of him in order to be really productive.
If we don't sign him and he ends up in LAC or SF next to a Bosa he could have a great year.
Or a replacement for Clowney in Cleveland
Or a replacement for Clowney in Cleveland
He certainly was not average, he just didn't put gaudy sack numbers yet
I think the Falcons will make a very hard push at him.
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