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Mac's cap hit as it stands now that we have exercised the option is around 24 mil not 13-14mil as some have said because he still has 13.4 mil in outstanding SB that gets accelerated to 2006 + the 9 mil base salary + the 1 mil buyout....so keeping Mac for 1 yr is not very palatable to me....if he is going to be our QB next yr it will be with an extension that at least allows us some cap relief by pro-rating the old SB over 4yrs.
 
If the plan is to draft a QB at #3, then there's not necessarily any reason to extend his deal. That way, we wouldn't carry any dead money from his contract into 2007. McNair would mentor our top pick for a year, and then he'd take over for Mac in a year.

That's one possible scenario.
 
It appears that the Titans can continue down the path to letting McNair play out this season and choose to redo the contract well after the draft. This opens a lot of options, IMO. If they take Young, they could then sign McNair for two seasons. If it is Leinart, then you do a one-year deal or simply let him go and let Volek start the season. If the Titans trade out, they can sign McNair for a longer deal.

There won't be a lot of openings for QB after the draft. The longer Reese stretches this out, the more this stacks up for him.
 
TitanJeff said:
It appears that the Titans can continue down the path to letting McNair play out this season and choose to redo the contract well after the draft. This opens a lot of options, IMO. If they take Young, they could then sign McNair for two seasons. If it is Leinart, then you do a one-year deal or simply let him go and let Volek start the season. If the Titans trade out, they can sign McNair for a longer deal.

There won't be a lot of openings for QB after the draft. The longer Reese stretches this out, the more this stacks up for him.
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I don't think Young is ready to start right out of the shute but this idea of having him sit two years makes no sense to me. Young played major college ball against major competion for three years. His situation is not the same as it was for McNair when he came out. Young may take some lumps the first year he starts but waitiing two years behind an aging and diminished McNair would cause more problems IMO. We could easily have our better QB on the bench.
 
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I don't think Young is ready to start right out of the shute but this idea of having him sit two years makes no sense to me. Young played major college ball against major competion for three years. His situation is not the same as it was for McNair when he came out. Young may take some lumps the first year he starts but waitiing two years behind an aging and diminished McNair would cause more problems IMO. We could easily have our better QB on the bench.
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The luxery here is that Young would be in minicamps, through a training camp and a pre-season before anything has to be done with McNair if I understand correctly that this bonus is not paid until the start of the regular season.

Young would be evaluted and the Titans may decide he'd be ready to take over in just one year. That would be the ideal situation all around, IMO.

But even if the decision is to keep McNair two years, we know he'll likely miss a number of games during that time. Young, as the #2, would get some opportunities. And more and more of those games we've seen McNair miss practice all week just to suck it up and play on Sunday would become starts for Young.
 
I would prob let him sit 2 years, but one major difference is that chandler was actually a pretty decent qb at that time (although most his career before that was a dark era). He was competitive, had the team on the verge of the playoffs, and was throwing a good long ball to Sanders and Haywood. And he then went on to superbowl to further illustrate he was playing at a high level. Right now McNair is playing decent, but he's not winning football games, and the team is not on he verge of anything.

All that said, I think McNair deserves to ride out his career, as it has no major impact on us, and I think that Vince Young could learn a lot from him. Although it may slow Vince Young's progress a bit on the field, I don't think it's a bad thing.

Now having said that, speed dwindles over time. The real question is does Young get slower by waiting two years, or does he have more left to give as he hits his peak. McNair still ran like crazy despite sitting two years. So it would seem he could sit and lose nothing over the long haul.
 
Well, seeing as how Vince probably needs to learn to stay in the pocket (vice #7 from Atlanta, who's hurt as much as our own #9) a little longer, if he loses a step or two, that would be an ok trade-off. IMO, he'll still be pretty mobile.
 
Starkiller...

Everytime someone does something wrong you have some lame excuse. We signed this deal with mcnair and what has he done sense? He's not even a top 10 QB any more.

We go back to this mentality that you and others have on this board that the titans were so damn good for so damn long we can't help but suck. We just couldn't afford to pay all those incredible players. So we sign a deal with mcnair that will be lighter on the cap for 2004 and 2005 and what do we get for that? We stilll lose most of our best players. That back loaded deal which is costing us now when mcnair isn't as good. Didn't reese consider that steve mcnair might not be as good a player in 2006 that he was in 2003?

As far as guarenteed money is concerned mcnair got a large signing bonus, his salary for 2006 will be $9M and his other bonus costs us over $8M against the cap. It's guarenteed if he is simply on the team.

How can you defend the fact it will cost us $13M against the cap even if he isn't on the team? We tell him to take a hike and it's still like paying a pro bowl offensive tackle.
 
Titans2004...

The $13M that myself and others have talked about is the salary cap hit if we were to just release mcnair. That's a pretty heavy hit for a guy not even on the team.

The only solution if we can't sign him to a reasonable deal is to trade him in lieu of a new contract. Some other team might be willing to pay something closer to what he wants if they can get him for a 5th rd pick.

I was one of those who thought it was moronic to dump mcnair and keep volek. Now i'm starting to think the other way around. We could sign shaun alexander for what it would take to keep mcnair around. We certainly can't afford to keep mcnair and volek with a vince young.
 
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Everytime someone does something wrong you have some lame excuse. We signed this deal with mcnair and what has he done sense? He's not even a top 10 QB any more.

We go back to this mentality that you and others have on this board that the titans were so damn good for so damn long we can't help but suck. We just couldn't afford to pay all those incredible players. So we sign a deal with mcnair that will be lighter on the cap for 2004 and 2005 and what do we get for that? We stilll lose most of our best players. That back loaded deal which is costing us now when mcnair isn't as good. Didn't reese consider that steve mcnair might not be as good a player in 2006 that he was in 2003?

As far as guarenteed money is concerned mcnair got a large signing bonus, his salary for 2006 will be $9M and his other bonus costs us over $8M against the cap. It's guarenteed if he is simply on the team.

How can you defend the fact it will cost us $13M against the cap even if he isn't on the team? We tell him to take a hike and it's still like paying a pro bowl offensive tackle.
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In 2002 we made it to the AFC Championship game. In 2003 McNair was co-MVP and we went to the wire against the Patriots before getting ousted from the playoffs. How was Reese supposed to predict that the next year McNair would have an bad year and get injured? How was Reese going to predict the whole team would stink as bad in 2004? If things had worked out we could have kept a few of those vets we let go, some draft picks could have worked out a little better (Woolfolk and CAlico) and with McNair duplicating his efforts of 2002 and 2003 we could still be in postion to make a playoff run in 2005.
You actually made a comment we could have dumped McNair, after a MVP season, and kept Volek who had yet to prove anything until he played in place of McNair in 2004.
Certainly it is frustrating having big CAP numbers for a guy appears at the end of his career but I'm not sure anyone, including yourself could have predicted McNair's demise would come this soon. I just hope we keep McNair only one more year, getting out from the dead money in 2007 and focus on making a run year after next.
 
If Alexander was willing to play here. I'd have to consider it. But if a star caliber player isn't involved, I have no interest. Let's just play out the contract. That said, I can't imagine Alexander would want to play here.
 
Alexander wouldn't want to play here?

He's from kentucky and played college ball at the greatest of all institutions, BAMA. So why wouldn't he want to play in nashville?
 
RollTide said:
He's from kentucky and played college ball at the greatest of all institutions, BAMA. So why wouldn't he want to play in nashville?
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Bama is the greatest of all institutions:ha: :ha: :ha: Your a Bama fan, I dont think I would have ever noticed:winker:
It is extremely doubtful that he plays in TN next year. I expect to see him in AZ or franchised in Seattle(or was he promised he wouldnt be franchised this year)
 
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