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I'd give Evans at least a .5, if not a full 1.0. He's a solid overall starter and he's a beast against the run. Your traditional thumper LB.
 
I don’t think we can assume the average grade is 50 though. Could be lower, could be higher. Obviously, not going to ask you to do every GM but that would be the only real way to compare them. (Paging Riverman). Hard to compare him against nothing, especially in this scenario where we are creating a new way to look at his performance.

I think your assessment of the picks so far is pretty fair and spot on. Good job. I think the Dodd (not sure why this one is so triggering) and Wilson picks really cloud the judgement for some posters on here. JRob has been pretty solid in the draft.


I did something a little similar a few weeks back. I didn't give each pick a numerical grade, I just basically went hit or miss. From 2016-2019, I believe J-Rob had about a 70% hit rate among all his picks. The only teams above .500 with higher hit rate was I believe Pitt, Green Bay, and Buffalo
 
Nah, it is your grade. Biggest thing about Taylor is that 2 of the 4 next WR's taken were Chris Godwin and Kenny Golladay.

I'd probably got lower on Sharper, higher on Evans, lower on Hooker, lower on Fulton, lower on the 2nd D Evans.

no , no , noooo don’t say that. Both Godwin AND Golladay came after Taylor ?! Sob:drunk:
 
I think the Austin Johnson one deserves a larger hit.. That range in the 2nd round, you're looking for more than just a consistent role player - you need an impact player of some magnitude - Austin Johnson never was any part of that.

Notable names drafted after him (skipping DH) that could have had larger impact on the team --- Michael Thomas, Jarran Reed, Deion Jones.
 
no , no , noooo don’t say that. Both Godwin AND Golladay came after Taylor ?! Sob:drunk:

Makes the pick for Corey Davis even more painful, since we could've got Godwin and Golladay in the later rounds. But I'm sure if they were a Titan, they wouldn't be as good as they've been.
 
I think the Austin Johnson one deserves a larger hit.. That range in the 2nd round, you're looking for more than just a consistent role player - you need an impact player of some magnitude - Austin Johnson never was any part of that.

Notable names drafted after him (skipping DH) that could have had larger impact on the team --- Michael Thomas, Jarran Reed, Deion Jones.

Looking at that 2016 draft and it was rough for a lot of teams. Those literally have to be the worst second round picks ever drafted.
 
He made it twice.
just his rookie year for us IIRC. Made it once on the Browns, the team that we traded our 1st (#15 overall) and 3rd round (#76 overall) picks to move up 7 spots to #8 overall to get him. I'd say that retrospectively, JRob got schooled on the drafting of Conklin and therefore should either graded much less with the "analysis" pick. We got one really good year out of him. (yes, yes- injuries can't be predicted) but the draft capital we expended for the return should be.
 
just his rookie year for us IIRC. Made it once on the Browns, the team that we traded our 1st (#15 overall) and 3rd round (#76 overall) picks to move up 7 spots to #8 overall to get him. I'd say that retrospectively, JRob got schooled on the drafting of Conklin and therefore should either graded much less with the "analysis" pick. We got one really good year out of him. (yes, yes- injuries can't be predicted) but the draft capital we expended for the return should be.
I would argue actually two good years. His first and his last with us. The two in the middle marred by injury and recovery. We did give up a fair amount to get a player that we let walk by being reactive rather than proactive. Overall, disappointing outcome.
 
This draft should be a make or break year for JR. He's about 50/50. If he screws this one up, Amy needs to start looking elsewhere. Hopefully he learns from whatever mistakes he's made and he kills it though. I really do like the guy, and I want us to succeed. I just will never understand how he managed to draft the biggest bust in nfl history though when his draft history has always been pretty solid. Makes me think he's just not the guy we thought he was. Then again, it was a weird off-season and people make mistakes, so I'm willing to give him a chance to redeem himself. But he should be on a short leash. It also sucks that none of his first round picks are still on our team, all things considered.
 
just his rookie year for us IIRC. Made it once on the Browns, the team that we traded our 1st (#15 overall) and 3rd round (#76 overall) picks to move up 7 spots to #8 overall to get him. I'd say that retrospectively, JRob got schooled on the drafting of Conklin and therefore should either graded much less with the "analysis" pick. We got one really good year out of him. (yes, yes- injuries can't be predicted) but the draft capital we expended for the return should be.

Oh yeah he got schooled alright. Corey Coleman (#15 overall pick) and Shon Coleman (#76 overall pick) were real game changers.

Meanwhile, we got a top 20 player at his position and made it to the AFCCG with him on being a solid contributor to the roster.
 
This draft should be a make or break year for JR. He's about 50/50. If he screws this one up, Amy needs to start looking elsewhere. Hopefully he learns from whatever mistakes he's made and he kills it though. I really do like the guy, and I want us to succeed. I just will never understand how he managed to draft the biggest bust in nfl history though when his draft history has always been pretty solid. Makes me think he's just not the guy we thought he was. Then again, it was a weird off-season and people make mistakes, so I'm willing to give him a chance to redeem himself. But he should be on a short leash. It also sucks that none of his first round picks are still on our team, all things considered.
No, he’ll get more time than that. He does deserve credit for getting us from the basement to respectable, but another poor draft and I would hope to see changes in our evaluation process. Of course, if Fulton and Evans tear it up this year, then last year’s draft is quality.
 
Make or break lol

Yea right

JRs leash is quite long.

No losing seasons under his watch
And while his 2020 failures are widely recognized, overall he’s built a crap team of the early 2010’s into a regular competitor. 5 straight +.500 season. 3 playoff runs, 2 containing at least 1 win and an AFCCG appearance. He has a long leash and rightfully so.

GM’s aren’t like players either where we can look around the league, anticipate “FA”, and actually say, we can improve if we sign this person. IF JRob were let go, let’s hear the list of “better” and available GMs to rather be hired.
 
just his rookie year for us IIRC. Made it once on the Browns, the team that we traded our 1st (#15 overall) and 3rd round (#76 overall) picks to move up 7 spots to #8 overall to get him. I'd say that retrospectively, JRob got schooled on the drafting of Conklin and therefore should either graded much less with the "analysis" pick. We got one really good year out of him. (yes, yes- injuries can't be predicted) but the draft capital we expended for the return should be.
Well if you just look at it like a one trade deal.. but, when you see how he traded for a bunch of picks, then took a couple of those picks to move back up to Conklin, we still came out ahead.
 
Well if you just look at it like a one trade deal.. but, when you see how he traded for a bunch of picks, then took a couple of those picks to move back up to Conklin, we still came out ahead.
That’s really debatable, at least with the early round picks with what did with the “king’s random”. He’s impressively hit on a few latter rounders. I think the biggest thing he did to change culture was to bring in Vrabel.

but overall the PFF analysis is a fair enough method to evaluate as long as consistently applied.
 
just his rookie year for us IIRC. Made it once on the Browns, the team that we traded our 1st (#15 overall) and 3rd round (#76 overall) picks to move up 7 spots to #8 overall to get him. I'd say that retrospectively, JRob got schooled on the drafting of Conklin and therefore should either graded much less with the "analysis" pick. We got one really good year out of him. (yes, yes- injuries can't be predicted) but the draft capital we expended for the return should be.
You have to include in your draft capital equation that we are getting pick 100 for Conklin ...so JRob really moved up from 12 to 8 which is 200 on the trade value chart for 110 which is the difference between 76 and 100....JRob went half price shopping
 
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