KamikaZ said:
A dinged hammy doesn't cause a normal person to gain 15-20 pounds and get outbenched by a quarterback.
Titans2008 said:
It does if you eat too much and do no cardio or can't work out. Boxers gain weight all the time between fights, then get in shape again. What's your point? He was always in shape for the season obviously, had no character issues during the season, and this hammy injury was his first real "serious" injury in his collegent career. So we shouldn't draft a guy because he had a poor offseason? Get outta here....
Lol, ok man. Who said anything about not drafting him? My concern is the same as the other 31 NFL teams evidentally. He isn't in shape at the most crucial point in his career, so what does that say about him? But you're right. Let's just give him a pass because he ran behind the best line in the NCAA against mostly Pac-10 defenses on one of the most talented units ever.
Titans2008 said:
31 teams pass on great players all the time. Its called finding value and getting overlooked.
Most crucial part of his career should be on the field when he was setting Pac-10 records left and right and being AS productive as the #2 overall pick.
So I guess Leinhart and Bush and Mike Williams should all be overlooked because they played great as a team? A great prospect at RB can't have a great line to run after; funny, I thought a team's running game is two fold.
Be happy we picked up a Top 20 (not just my opinion, it was documented by some draft experts when he came out) talent with the 39th pick man.
Ewker said:
If there was, they aren't a big deal, because Chow vouched for him and the pick was clearly retribution for passing on Leinhart, who Chow and Fisher wanted a lot.
KamikaZ said:
I'm extremely happy with the pick, but I still understand why everyone else passed on him. I feel good that we had inside info on him and still selected him, but we also traded down with a chance to take him earlier in the round...
And yes, there is always the consideration when a player produces on a great team that his production was a product of the players around him more so than his own talent. We don't get to bring the entire USC team with us just for drafting LenDale, unfortunately.
On the field production may be an important factor, but clearly athletic ability supercedes that in many cases. Hello Heith Schuler, Scott Frost, Charlie Ward, Shaun King, Ron Dayne, Rocky Calmus, Peter Warrick, Joey Harrington, Tim Couch, etc etc.
Every good team has to have good players and USC was no exception. When you look at a storied tradition like USC and all the great players they've had over the years its hard to believe that LenDale leads them all in scoring. This is my favorite pick so far in the draft when you look at worth for your pick. This is a guy that was projected to be a first round no-doubter and we got him in the second round. I like it. I guess we can say good bye to Mr. Henry...
I'd rather have Henry than keep waiting on Brownie, he just can't hold up.
Oh this is a grreeaaat pick. Teams will regret passing. You know they all went "oh schnap" when we got him with our 2nd pick. At #45, that's a HUGE still, for a guy who at a brief point could have gone top 15 even. We saved some money here, especially with not having a 3rd round pick.
I love that graphic that shows how LenDale had 24 rushing TDs last year compared to the Titans only having 8.
Ummmm....now who has the best running back in the AFC South?
It's crazy we now have 6 RBs on the roster.
I love that graphic that shows how LenDale had 24 rushing TDs last year compared to the Titans only having 8.
Ummmm....now who has the best running back in the AFC South?
It's crazy we now have 6 RBs on the roster.
Even if all White did was pick up first downs on 2nd or 3rd and short and score TDs he would be worth the pick. What is strange is that Reese essentially passed on him and opted to trade down taking a chance of not getting him. There was not one really good power back in the whole draft except for White. I think he will be special and we essentially got 1st round value at #45.
Soxcat said:
I agree totally. How soon can he start working his leg?
it wont be like that for long.GLinks said:
brown-stays. i think he'll finish out the last year of his contract and bolt for something we wont be willing to pay him.
henry-stays. imo, should be the starter this year, but that's not up to me. has a pretty cap friendly deal which should allow him to stay for a few more years.
white- starter in '07 and possibly a starter for a game or two in '06 depending on injuries.
nash- stays. with brown leaving next year, i think he would be a better change of pace back to white than henry would be.
payton- goes. just not enough room for him. he's a feel good story, but he got his shot in the arizona game and he didnt take advantage of it.
fleming- goes. i honestly think bo scaife will bump him from the roster. i like fleming personally, but he got outperformed by scaife last year in every aspect of the game.
quinton ganther- practice squad/cut.
if lendale comes in healthy/in-shape to training camp and performs good in the preseason, he'll be the starter in week one hands down
call me crazy or whatever you want, but this will be the steal of the draft...
chow and fisher love this pick
call me crazy or whatever you want, but this will be the steal of the draft...
chow and fisher love this pick
I don't think we'll have a "hands down starter," definitely not week one and probably not all season. I could see white emerging as the starter for next year, but right now, we have three VERY solid backs that all have the potential to be good starting running backs in the NFL, but none have been able to step up and show the consistency required for the title. I think we'll use all three a lot, and whoever comes out the strongest will get more and more time, and we'll have a starter by the end of the season for next year. I think unless brown has a really strong year he's gone. Travis is so cheap there's no reason to cut him, and White has a very promising future. While I've been insecure about our backfield since Eddie left, NO MORE!
Chow might use him for certain situations. And with their history, Brown and/or Henry are likely to go down and he'll get some opportunities.
Jarrett Payton is likely a goner and Nash needs to really prove something this camp.
Jarrett Payton is likely a goner and Nash needs to really prove something this camp.
If he had been in shape or been able to run at the combine or USC pro day he would have gone in the 1st round we would never had a chance to get him. Great pick but we must remember that every pick is a gamble.
Fleming as much as I like him is gone. To many TE's who can play his position.
Nash is gone. I don't think he impressed to many last yr
Payton the feel good story gone
Nash is gone. I don't think he impressed to many last yr
Payton the feel good story gone
I love to keep saying this (especially since he's now a Titan) :
LenDale White is the most NFL-capable RB of the 06 draft
he should be around for at least 3-5 years longer than Reggie Bush
LenDale White is the most NFL-capable RB of the 06 draft
he should be around for at least 3-5 years longer than Reggie Bush
I think Nash and Payton are gone.
Similar build in Nash and Ganther, but Ganther can pass protect on 3rd down. He was also a thousand yard back in college with over 300 yards receiving.
Flemming is the one I'm not sure about, but I'd keep him if we could. Depends on if we can still keep Greg Guenther, which I'm still all for.
Henry or Brown walk next year. LenDale/Omar/Chris or Travis - then possibly Flemming, who is still versatile and only a 6th round pick.
Similar build in Nash and Ganther, but Ganther can pass protect on 3rd down. He was also a thousand yard back in college with over 300 yards receiving.
Flemming is the one I'm not sure about, but I'd keep him if we could. Depends on if we can still keep Greg Guenther, which I'm still all for.
Henry or Brown walk next year. LenDale/Omar/Chris or Travis - then possibly Flemming, who is still versatile and only a 6th round pick.
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