Just thought I'd post some pro day results of interest.
Adam Carriker posted 40 times of 4.73 and 4.72 at 291 pounds. Be nice if he fell to us. Then we'd surely have a choice of him, or trading down.
Jay Moore, the other Nebraska DE, looked nice at the Senior Bowl as well. I've seen us take him in a couple of mocks, around the third round. He posted times of 4.74 and 4.76, weighing in at 274.
Both Carriker and Moore are 6'6" at least, with Moore being 6'63/4".
Reggie Nelson recovered from running 4.47 (his prior posted Combine time) to running 4.35 at his pro day. 4.15 short shuttle, 6.7 3-cone, and a 10' 6" broad jump, to boot.
Adam Carriker posted 40 times of 4.73 and 4.72 at 291 pounds. Be nice if he fell to us. Then we'd surely have a choice of him, or trading down.
Jay Moore, the other Nebraska DE, looked nice at the Senior Bowl as well. I've seen us take him in a couple of mocks, around the third round. He posted times of 4.74 and 4.76, weighing in at 274.
Both Carriker and Moore are 6'6" at least, with Moore being 6'63/4".
Reggie Nelson recovered from running 4.47 (his prior posted Combine time) to running 4.35 at his pro day. 4.15 short shuttle, 6.7 3-cone, and a 10' 6" broad jump, to boot.
Noteworthy workout:
"Courtney Brown DB The Cal-Poly SLO product worked out at San Jose as part of their pro day and he really stood out with eye-popping numbers. He originally started school there as a wide receiver and was moved to DB in 2004. Brown (6-1 3/8, 200) ran two 40s, notching a 4.35 and 4.32. He had a vertical jump of 41 ½ inches, a 10-foot-11 broad jump, a 4.07 short shuttle, a 7.10 three-cone and 15 bench presses. "
Might be a good day two selection. Incredible measurables, terrific size and speed. Clearly an explosive player.
"Courtney Brown DB The Cal-Poly SLO product worked out at San Jose as part of their pro day and he really stood out with eye-popping numbers. He originally started school there as a wide receiver and was moved to DB in 2004. Brown (6-1 3/8, 200) ran two 40s, notching a 4.35 and 4.32. He had a vertical jump of 41 ½ inches, a 10-foot-11 broad jump, a 4.07 short shuttle, a 7.10 three-cone and 15 bench presses. "
Might be a good day two selection. Incredible measurables, terrific size and speed. Clearly an explosive player.
Any Steve McQueen fans out there?
"Melvin Bullitt S Bullitt (6-1¼, 201 pounds) ran 4.50 and 4.48 in the 40-yard dash. He also had a 40½-inch vertical jump, 10-foot-5 broad jump, 15 strength lifts, 3.97 in the short shuttle and 6.90 in the three-cone drill. "
"Melvin Bullitt S Bullitt (6-1¼, 201 pounds) ran 4.50 and 4.48 in the 40-yard dash. He also had a 40½-inch vertical jump, 10-foot-5 broad jump, 15 strength lifts, 3.97 in the short shuttle and 6.90 in the three-cone drill. "
with those kind of measurables, what's pushing him to a second day pick?GLinks said:
i have a hard time believing reggie nelson shaved that much time off his forty
ONUV said:
Why? He has been clocked in the 4.3 range several times while at Florida, I had a hard time believing that he only ran in the 4.4 range.
he may have had bad starts at the combine and he worked on correcting it with a speed coach. a smooth start can easily take off a tenth of a second.ONUV said:
Yeah. A 10th of a second could be added or lost anywhere within 40 yards.
The American guy in the Great Escape? I thought he did a great job in the movieGLinks said:
Also remember that many prodays have no electronic timing devices and the "official" watches are usually a little more insensitive to initial movement.
oochymp said:
Being an unknown from a small school, having not played against top competition in school.
Did better in 05 than 06. Only 1 INT last year compared to 7 the year before. Seven PDs in 06, 12 in 05.
Jason Hill's Prospect Profile on NFL.com
Not a pro day result, but I thought I'd post it anyway. I cannot recall reading such a long list of positives, at least not in the last few years.
Compares to Reggie Wayne and Chad Johnson? These comparisons rarely translate to on the field, but if they do, Hey! Sign me up. And both those guys were 2nd rounders, correct?
Enjoy. Try not to salivate.
Positives: Has an angular frame with smooth muscle tone, developed chest, long arms, good bubble and tapered thighs and calves. … Demonstrates superb hand/eye coordination to get to the ball at its high point, and the size and body control to time his leaps and contort his body to get to the tough throws in a crowd. … Has excellent balance adjusting to downfield passes and knows how to sink his hips and drop his weight to elude after the catch. … Shows very good sideline vision, keeping his balance and feet in bounds and is fearless going for the ball in a crowd and very combative with his hands, whether to escape the jam or to lock on to a defender when blocking. … Shows very good ball concentration going up for the jump ball and never flinches, even when defenders try to attack his legs. … Gets a good initial thrust off the line, using his hands with force to defeat the jam. … More quick than fast, but glides to top acceleration nicely. … Uses his size well to slip through tight areas and has enough burst to gobble up the cushion. … Does a very good job of adjusting to the coverage and even though he frequently catches in a crowd, he shows the fluid stride to not have to throttle down coming out of his breaks. … Runs crisp routes and drops his hips and sinks his weight to separate out of his cuts. … Very good settling underneath, making him a nice target in the short area. … His balance and good feet let him deal with operating in tight spaces. … Does a great job of weaving through a crowd and has the power to leverage defenders to gain separation. … Shows very good hip sinking agility and does a good job of getting depth in all of his routes. … Uses his hands very effectively to gain separation after the catch, showing the loose hips, head fake and strong leg drive to break the initial tackle. … Takes no wasted steps with his acceleration out of transition cuts and does a fine job on comeback routes. … Does a good job of looking the ball in over his shoulder and can get open and settle in the soft spot of the zone. … Can weave through traffic with the best of them, reminding some of the Bengals' Chad Johnson in that area. … Will go for the ball with determination on crossing routes and shows outstanding concentration to get to the ball over the middle. … Times his leaps well and will not hesitate to sacrifice his body to get to the ball in a crowd. … Has the body control, balance and jumping skills to reach and pluck the ball away from his frame and at the high point. … Possesses the ability to play the ball over his shoulder and make body adjustments to track the ball in flight. … Attacks with aggression and stays with the play until the finish when blocking in the second level. … Is very effective at getting low to chop down linebackers and safeties at their legs in run support. … Played on all the special teams (punt return/coverage, kickoff return/coverage) and is also a proficient kick blocker.
Negatives: Has only adequate weight-room strength, but plays stronger on the field and uses his hands well to escape the jam. … Doesn't have that sudden explosion to leave defenders rocking back on their heels, but shows the savvy and hand usage to gain good separation coming off the snap. … While he lacks a sudden burst, he stays square in his routes, especially when coming back to the ball, which he had to do often the last two years due to WSU's quarterback issues. … Not the type to explode up the field after the catch, leaving defenders grasping at air, but he is a strong runner who powers through the initial tackle and is a load to bring down once he builds up to top acceleration. … Needs to improve his overall strength to prevent from being pushed back into the pocket when working in-line, though. … Has the hand usage to sustain when he is able to lock on, but doesn't have the brute power to drag the defensive linemen down.
Compares to: Reggie Wayne, Indianapolis -- Wayne, Cincinnati's Chad Johnson and Hill don't need to rely on blazing speed to be the dangerous threats they are. They all do it with a physical running strike and loose hips to weave through traffic, making them players who need to be accounted for every second they are on the field.
I think I'm sold on taking him over Ted Ginn, Jr. right now.
Not a pro day result, but I thought I'd post it anyway. I cannot recall reading such a long list of positives, at least not in the last few years.
Compares to Reggie Wayne and Chad Johnson? These comparisons rarely translate to on the field, but if they do, Hey! Sign me up. And both those guys were 2nd rounders, correct?
Enjoy. Try not to salivate.
Positives: Has an angular frame with smooth muscle tone, developed chest, long arms, good bubble and tapered thighs and calves. … Demonstrates superb hand/eye coordination to get to the ball at its high point, and the size and body control to time his leaps and contort his body to get to the tough throws in a crowd. … Has excellent balance adjusting to downfield passes and knows how to sink his hips and drop his weight to elude after the catch. … Shows very good sideline vision, keeping his balance and feet in bounds and is fearless going for the ball in a crowd and very combative with his hands, whether to escape the jam or to lock on to a defender when blocking. … Shows very good ball concentration going up for the jump ball and never flinches, even when defenders try to attack his legs. … Gets a good initial thrust off the line, using his hands with force to defeat the jam. … More quick than fast, but glides to top acceleration nicely. … Uses his size well to slip through tight areas and has enough burst to gobble up the cushion. … Does a very good job of adjusting to the coverage and even though he frequently catches in a crowd, he shows the fluid stride to not have to throttle down coming out of his breaks. … Runs crisp routes and drops his hips and sinks his weight to separate out of his cuts. … Very good settling underneath, making him a nice target in the short area. … His balance and good feet let him deal with operating in tight spaces. … Does a great job of weaving through a crowd and has the power to leverage defenders to gain separation. … Shows very good hip sinking agility and does a good job of getting depth in all of his routes. … Uses his hands very effectively to gain separation after the catch, showing the loose hips, head fake and strong leg drive to break the initial tackle. … Takes no wasted steps with his acceleration out of transition cuts and does a fine job on comeback routes. … Does a good job of looking the ball in over his shoulder and can get open and settle in the soft spot of the zone. … Can weave through traffic with the best of them, reminding some of the Bengals' Chad Johnson in that area. … Will go for the ball with determination on crossing routes and shows outstanding concentration to get to the ball over the middle. … Times his leaps well and will not hesitate to sacrifice his body to get to the ball in a crowd. … Has the body control, balance and jumping skills to reach and pluck the ball away from his frame and at the high point. … Possesses the ability to play the ball over his shoulder and make body adjustments to track the ball in flight. … Attacks with aggression and stays with the play until the finish when blocking in the second level. … Is very effective at getting low to chop down linebackers and safeties at their legs in run support. … Played on all the special teams (punt return/coverage, kickoff return/coverage) and is also a proficient kick blocker.
Negatives: Has only adequate weight-room strength, but plays stronger on the field and uses his hands well to escape the jam. … Doesn't have that sudden explosion to leave defenders rocking back on their heels, but shows the savvy and hand usage to gain good separation coming off the snap. … While he lacks a sudden burst, he stays square in his routes, especially when coming back to the ball, which he had to do often the last two years due to WSU's quarterback issues. … Not the type to explode up the field after the catch, leaving defenders grasping at air, but he is a strong runner who powers through the initial tackle and is a load to bring down once he builds up to top acceleration. … Needs to improve his overall strength to prevent from being pushed back into the pocket when working in-line, though. … Has the hand usage to sustain when he is able to lock on, but doesn't have the brute power to drag the defensive linemen down.
Compares to: Reggie Wayne, Indianapolis -- Wayne, Cincinnati's Chad Johnson and Hill don't need to rely on blazing speed to be the dangerous threats they are. They all do it with a physical running strike and loose hips to weave through traffic, making them players who need to be accounted for every second they are on the field.
I think I'm sold on taking him over Ted Ginn, Jr. right now.
Reggie Wayne was a late first, but I get your point. If we don't get Bowe in the first then we should highly consider taking him with our second pick.
We don't typically take WR's in the first round, and it hurts. In my opinion it is imperative that we take SOMEBODY at receiver on day 1. Be it Jarrett, Meachum, Bowe, Hill, or Rice. The only way we could possibly make a mistake taking a WR day 1 is if we chose Ginn.
This is the deepest WR draft I think I've ever seen, if we don't make a move I think I'll cry. And that's a threat.
We don't typically take WR's in the first round, and it hurts. In my opinion it is imperative that we take SOMEBODY at receiver on day 1. Be it Jarrett, Meachum, Bowe, Hill, or Rice. The only way we could possibly make a mistake taking a WR day 1 is if we chose Ginn.
This is the deepest WR draft I think I've ever seen, if we don't make a move I think I'll cry. And that's a threat.
well, that sounds like a really good player and they obviously think highly of him with all of the positives on there
I think Rice is 3rd round material personally. I would be distraught if we took him in the first.
He's definitely not NFL ready, physically or mentally. I'd still take him over Ginn though.Titans2008 said:
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