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Snookus said:
Those are my three favorites as well, speaking realistically.
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Right on. The things that worry me about each in regard to the draft and our position in it: Bowe could go ahead of our pick as the 2nd best WR after Johnson; Meachem we might have to draft at our spot, and a week ago I wanted to trade down two to five spots to draft him; Hill just may not be around when we draft in round two, if we go defense in one. If we picked up another pick or two for trading far enough down in round one, I could almost see us taking Hill toward the end of the round (also Charles Johnson if we went D).
 
Also, everyone is talking about Bowe being physical... don't forget that Meachem is no slouch. I remember numerous times that he took a 2 yard pass and just threw the defender down for a 20+ yard gain.
 
Banshee2 said:
Dude, you are loving Bowe like I was loving Mike Williams two years ago...:))
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Upon further review, I was loving Mike Williams a lot more. Practically screaming for him. Pac's play shut me up, but off the field has made me :irked: then :grrr: !

:ha:
 
Titans2008 said:
I don't think it is clear that Bowe will go higher than Meachem.
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Eh, I'd say it'll depend on who fits whose system. But, if Bowe was rated higher than Meachem in the offseason, I think his Pro Day workout helped him when he matched Meachem's speed.

I wonder who Vince would want more. He'd probably say Ginn, so I'm not sure we can trust his opinion.

I'd take either, really, and Meachem was sooo clutch in many games this year - I just hope he can continue that. I think with Bowe I've been thinking of a faster Anquan Boldin.
 
Also, I'll add -- Meachem, junior. Bowe, senior. Meachem, previously injured. Out produced Bowe last year, but not overall during his college career. Still not saying who is better, but those things will be considered by teams come draft time.
 
GLinks said:
Not a pro day result, but I thought I'd post it anyway. I cannot recall reading such a long list of positives, at least not in the last few years.


Compares to Reggie Wayne and Chad Johnson? These comparisons rarely translate to on the field, but if they do, Hey! Sign me up. And both those guys were 2nd rounders, correct?


Enjoy. Try not to salivate.


Positives: Has an angular frame with smooth muscle tone, developed chest, long arms, good bubble and tapered thighs and calves. … Demonstrates superb hand/eye coordination to get to the ball at its high point, and the size and body control to time his leaps and contort his body to get to the tough throws in a crowd. … Has excellent balance adjusting to downfield passes and knows how to sink his hips and drop his weight to elude after the catch. … Shows very good sideline vision, keeping his balance and feet in bounds and is fearless going for the ball in a crowd and very combative with his hands, whether to escape the jam or to lock on to a defender when blocking. … Shows very good ball concentration going up for the jump ball and never flinches, even when defenders try to attack his legs. … Gets a good initial thrust off the line, using his hands with force to defeat the jam. … More quick than fast, but glides to top acceleration nicely. … Uses his size well to slip through tight areas and has enough burst to gobble up the cushion. … Does a very good job of adjusting to the coverage and even though he frequently catches in a crowd, he shows the fluid stride to not have to throttle down coming out of his breaks. … Runs crisp routes and drops his hips and sinks his weight to separate out of his cuts. … Very good settling underneath, making him a nice target in the short area. … His balance and good feet let him deal with operating in tight spaces. … Does a great job of weaving through a crowd and has the power to leverage defenders to gain separation. … Shows very good hip sinking agility and does a good job of getting depth in all of his routes. … Uses his hands very effectively to gain separation after the catch, showing the loose hips, head fake and strong leg drive to break the initial tackle. … Takes no wasted steps with his acceleration out of transition cuts and does a fine job on comeback routes. … Does a good job of looking the ball in over his shoulder and can get open and settle in the soft spot of the zone. … Can weave through traffic with the best of them, reminding some of the Bengals' Chad Johnson in that area. … Will go for the ball with determination on crossing routes and shows outstanding concentration to get to the ball over the middle. … Times his leaps well and will not hesitate to sacrifice his body to get to the ball in a crowd. … Has the body control, balance and jumping skills to reach and pluck the ball away from his frame and at the high point. … Possesses the ability to play the ball over his shoulder and make body adjustments to track the ball in flight. … Attacks with aggression and stays with the play until the finish when blocking in the second level. … Is very effective at getting low to chop down linebackers and safeties at their legs in run support. … Played on all the special teams (punt return/coverage, kickoff return/coverage) and is also a proficient kick blocker.

Negatives: Has only adequate weight-room strength, but plays stronger on the field and uses his hands well to escape the jam. … Doesn't have that sudden explosion to leave defenders rocking back on their heels, but shows the savvy and hand usage to gain good separation coming off the snap. … While he lacks a sudden burst, he stays square in his routes, especially when coming back to the ball, which he had to do often the last two years due to WSU's quarterback issues. … Not the type to explode up the field after the catch, leaving defenders grasping at air, but he is a strong runner who powers through the initial tackle and is a load to bring down once he builds up to top acceleration. … Needs to improve his overall strength to prevent from being pushed back into the pocket when working in-line, though. … Has the hand usage to sustain when he is able to lock on, but doesn't have the brute power to drag the defensive linemen down.

Compares to: Reggie Wayne, Indianapolis -- Wayne, Cincinnati's Chad Johnson and Hill don't need to rely on blazing speed to be the dangerous threats they are. They all do it with a physical running strike and loose hips to weave through traffic, making them players who need to be accounted for every second they are on the field.


I think I'm sold on taking him over Ted Ginn, Jr. right now.
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I've been high on Jason hill for a while now. He's a very underrated WR if he's there round 3 would be an amazing pick. He's very smart and has great hands, he's gonna be a really good WR one day you whatch. But I don't think he will last that long but I hope he does cuz he could be this drafts Greg Jennings and go in round 2 and suprise people. Although Jennings didn't have a monster year you can ask anyone in Gb he's got what it takes to be very good and impressed the whole team.
 
From Texas' pro day:


Michael Griffin S Griffin (201 pounds) ran the 40 in 4.40 seconds, had a 39½-inch vertical jump and stood on everything else he did at the Combine. He looked good.


Heard he looked reeaaal good. Solomon Wilcots said today on the radio he had him rated higher than Landry even, and that Landry's edge is being a defensive QB. Said Griffin has better cover skills. Thought that was interesting.
 
Patrick Willis anyone?

:tongue:


Patrick Willis LB Willis (6-1, 237 pounds) ran the 40-yard dash in 4.37 and 4.38. He also had a 4.37 short shuttle and 7.10 three-cone drill. He stood on his numbers from the Combine for the rest. He had a phenomenal workout and clearly made several seven-figure increments in his rookie contract.


If he was there, I'd be tempted to say, "Make room, make room."
 
I would no longer be made if we ended up with Revis in the first round:


Darrelle Revis CB Revis (5-11 ¼, 196) ran the 40 in 4.41 and 4.39 seconds. He also notched a 38-inch vertical, a 10-foot-5 broad jump, a 4.08 short shuttle and a 6.56 three-cone drill. Sean Gilbert, a former first-round pick and 10-year NFL player, is his uncle. This workout made him some money, solidifying his status as a mid-first round pick.
 
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