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Watch the music city miracle..

I have that whole game on tape. Mcnair wasn't sharp at all in that game. Over throwing a wide open wycheck in the flat and that one play when he threw way too inside and it bounced off a linebacker and wycheck had to make an unbelievable catch. Mcnair looked amazingly similar to 2005. But that was back when he was young!
 
And, what is your point? That Steve was bad in that one playoff game, and he was also bad during the entire 2005 season? He found a way to get us a win in those games in the playoffs though.
 
RollTide said:
We are in championship mode guys!

RollTide said:
I'm not saying super bowl i just think we can be a good team.

Sorry I must have missed the fine print where you were making a distinction between "super Bowl" and "championship".

And how does this make me a hater. I absolutely think we can win this year. But I also think the odds makers who have us about 100/1 to win the Superbowl have got the numbers about right. (I've already backed them at 140's BTW).

With better protection, more reliable production from his receivers and a fit Brown and Henry tandem, McNair can be successful. And he is worlds better than any other QB we have on our roster, or any other QB aailable on the free agent market.

But in 2-3 years time, his body is going to need some serious rest and if wedon't want another "re-building" phase to occur then, we need to nab his replacement now.
 
Jwill1919 said:
And, what is your point? That Steve was bad in that one playoff game, and he was also bad during the entire 2005 season? He found a way to get us a win in those games in the playoffs though.
Tennessee 32
NY Giants 29 OT

Steve McNair completed 30-of-43 passes for 334 yards and three touchdowns, including a nine-yard scoring pass to tight end Frank Wycheck with nine seconds left in the fourth quarter. After a game-tying two-point conversion run sent the game to overtime, Joe Nedney kicked a 38-yard field goal to lift the Titans to a 32-29 victory over the Giants.
This is what McNair is all about.
Do you guys remember how banged up he was?
Still, grit and determination got it done.

This is the McNair I want. I only saw him in flashes last year.
I'm not out to hang him... but if he was cut I'd just move on.
I just hate haveing to look this far back to find the glory...the hero.:sad2:
 
RollTide said:
Not sure what it has to do with the subject but i'm sure you will enlighten me.

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Bottom line is he is not worth 23 million. Everyone knows it- I hope Steve does as well. In the same light, he still has at least 2 years of B+/A- QB in him. I hope he doesn't pull a "fat-head" Eddie.
 
Brian said:
Just because I hope we draft Matt Leinart, that doesn't mean McNair and the new-look Titans can't win 10 games next year and make a run at the playoffs. Sorry, but McNair is too banged up, and injury prone, to commit 2/3 more years to. Especially when you have the #3 pick in the draft in a year with three potential franchise QB's.

If Matt Lienert has the weapons Steve had last year he won't make it to game 2.
 
RollTide said:
I would be interested to know your opinion about mcnair though. It's funny that your such a mcnair fan so when i start a thread suggesting that he still can play you and your pals get pissed.

when did I get pissed?
 
Brian said:
What does that mean?

If the Titans draft Matt Lienert and he starts the season. Say they release McNair. If he had, Bennett, Calico and 3 rookie WRs as well as running back that suspended for drugs and another that can't stay healthy combined with an average offensive line AND a rookie OC. I say that he won't make it the second game because he would be carried off on a stretcher. It would be David Carr reinvented and I for one think Carr is a GREAT QB. Lienert definitely has potential but the odds would be stacked against him. So basically what I am saying is who you have under center isn't the problem, McNair, Volek, etc., the results would have been similar. Given Leinerts lack of mobility I say he would not faired as well as McNair. You may say he can throw a deep ball, but you need time to do that and he would not have had it playing with what McNair had last season.
 
If we draft Leinart it won't be like Carr's crash in Texas.
One. He'll have Givens in addition to Bennett and Calico.
Two. The three rookies WR's won't be rookies.
Three. Henry won't have a to serve any suspentions for drugs any more. He has restructured his contract to an incentive contract and he is focused for this year.
WHICH MEANS that our injury proned RB Brown won't have to carry the load as much in the beginning of the season and get banged up. Henry and Brown can split time, gain yards, and open up the passing game for Leinart (in this case) or whoever we have starting.
Four. With the addition of Mawae, possibly Ashworth, and then drafting some depth at O-Line, it won't be that average, and even if it is average.

I think the odds would be for Leinart if he comes here and starts from day one. He's already spent three years in Chow's offense, so he knows it like the back of his palm. He'd just have to adjust to the speed of the game and NFL defense. Leinart could start from day one in Tennessee and not play like a rookie.
 
RollTide said:
I have that whole game on tape. Mcnair wasn't sharp at all in that game. Over throwing a wide open wycheck in the flat and that one play when he threw way too inside and it bounced off a linebacker and wycheck had to make an unbelievable catch. Mcnair looked amazingly similar to 2005. But that was back when he was young!

I guess I miss the whole point of this thread. Is it:

1. McNair is good enough to lead this team at QB for the next couple of years and thus we don't have to use our #3 pick on a QB or
2. McNair has regressed to his 1999 passing form and now cannot run either so we need to hurry and get a new QB in here.

Which is it Tide?
 
theprizdfighter said:
......I think the odds would be for Leinart if he comes here and starts from day one. He's already spent three years in Chow's offense, so he knows it like the back of his palm. He'd just have to adjust to the speed of the game and NFL defense. Leinart could start from day one in Tennessee and not play like a rookie.


Hmmm. Errrhhh. Baa haa haa haaa.:ha:

Wait a minute. Were you for real?:hmm:
 
theprizdfighter said:
If we draft Leinart it won't be like Carr's crash in Texas.
One. He'll have Givens in addition to Bennett and Calico.
Two. The three rookies WR's won't be rookies.
Three. Henry won't have a to serve any suspentions for drugs any more. He has restructured his contract to an incentive contract and he is focused for this year.
WHICH MEANS that our injury proned RB Brown won't have to carry the load as much in the beginning of the season and get banged up. Henry and Brown can split time, gain yards, and open up the passing game for Leinart (in this case) or whoever we have starting.
Four. With the addition of Mawae, possibly Ashworth, and then drafting some depth at O-Line, it won't be that average, and even if it is average.

That is exactly my point. Last year McNair didn't have a chance and anyone expecting him to do more with less is being unfair. If Leinert does take over for Tennessee then he has the benefit of an upgraded offensive line, WRs who have a year of experience. A true #1 receiver in givens and a proven #2 in Bennett as well as like you said a running game and Chow's second not first season. If he had to produce in last year's offense he would not have been successful. That is the point of thread and that is my intention. To state a case for McNair that noone would have been successful in the situation he was put in. Is McNair aging, yes. Is he done, not at all. Is last year a reflection of his ability, some people say yes, I say no.
 
theprizdfighter said:
I think the odds would be for Leinart if he comes here and starts from day one. He's already spent three years in Chow's offense, so he knows it like the back of his palm. He'd just have to adjust to the speed of the game and NFL defense. Leinart could start from day one in Tennessee and not play like a rookie.
Not likely, but he's got the best chance at early success in that scenario out of the three QB's. But that's not why I'd draft him.
 
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