This should become a powerful movement indeed.
Will Witherspoon is on the top of my list for a number of reasons. He's a better LB then anyone we have not named Keith Bulluck, you won't break the bank for him (he ain't peanuts, but he should be less expensive then Arrington or Peterson), and he's quite young (26 when the season starts). He's a fast LB, something we were missing last year.
Support this powerful movement people; Witherspoon in 06.
Will Witherspoon is on the top of my list for a number of reasons. He's a better LB then anyone we have not named Keith Bulluck, you won't break the bank for him (he ain't peanuts, but he should be less expensive then Arrington or Peterson), and he's quite young (26 when the season starts). He's a fast LB, something we were missing last year.
Support this powerful movement people; Witherspoon in 06.
Damn right, if we bring in a free agent, he's the one I want. There really isn't much of a downside, he's worth whatever we'd need to pay for him, and then a major hole in our D is solved...
Anyone have a negative on him?
Anyone have a negative on him?
KamikaZ said:
I've seen alot of $6 million / year
definitely not peanuts
He isn't that large (231). He's basically a speed guy like Bulluck, so he isn't much of a foil. He isn't a tackling machine, but he's better then the other guys at it. He's decent in coverage, but it's not a strength.
If we get him, our LB corps is gonna be considerably faster and active this coming season. He's a smart buy for us, basically a perfect fit. We got a little money to spend, and he'd be an ideal pickup.
If we get him, our LB corps is gonna be considerably faster and active this coming season. He's a smart buy for us, basically a perfect fit. We got a little money to spend, and he'd be an ideal pickup.
Puck said:
Unless he gets the injury bug, we're getting what we pay for. This is a smart pickup. The Titans can either sit on there money, go conservative and just draft people with minimal investment in FA (worked out great so far). I'm so sick of us not making any investments in young, established players. Not ever player is a bargain; sometimes you gotta spend some dollars to get the good stuff and IMO, this isn't a bank-breaking move at all.
I say we get him. Like some of you have said nothing about him is bad.
We get Him
We get Him
Witherspoon is great, no question about it. He would come in and contribute from day one, giving the Titans one of the better LB groups in the league.
But wherever he ends up, he will demand (and receive) a king's ransom; with all the LB talent that will be available in the draft (at a considerably lower price), I think the Titans would be better served to go with a younger LB, and use the cap dollars to address other areas of need. (Safety, WR, O-line)
But wherever he ends up, he will demand (and receive) a king's ransom; with all the LB talent that will be available in the draft (at a considerably lower price), I think the Titans would be better served to go with a younger LB, and use the cap dollars to address other areas of need. (Safety, WR, O-line)
metal957 said:
Yea wat metal said....but is there enuff cap to sign him and or a Lawyer milloy if we dont sign tank?
I agree...
Probably the best guy for the money. Thoprnton might be the next best bet if we can't get witherspoon.
Only issue is size where both guys are only 230 lbs and would have to play the weak side meaning we would move bulluck to MLB or SAM.
Probably the best guy for the money. Thoprnton might be the next best bet if we can't get witherspoon.
Only issue is size where both guys are only 230 lbs and would have to play the weak side meaning we would move bulluck to MLB or SAM.
RollTide said:
Bulluck is only listed at 235. Not sure thats really an issue.
RollTide said:
Either move would be a mistake IMO. KB is not a hole plugger and that is what yoiu need in the middle. He is best scraping the line of scrimmage, so a move to SAM, where he will be taking on bigger blockers is not suited to his talents.
It's rare that everyone seems to agree. That's cool but I've got an honest question... As RollTide pointed out there seems to be some kind of size issue. I know what MLB and OLB... not sure what SAM (strong side?) is but still, I thought Bulluck didn't have the size to play in the middle. Where Kieth is good in pursuit and sideline to sideline coverage I thought (from reading this board in the past) he wasn't well suited to play in the middle or else he would. Can Kieth Bulluck take a RB coming right at him X times a game? Brad Kassel is 6'3 242lbs... I guess that's not much bigger. Where does his opinion that Kieth Bulluck cannot play in the middle stem from? It can't be over seven pounds...
dg...
If bulluck isn't sam or mlb sized then that would be the whole issue isn't it? We are talking abiout 2 guys(witherspoon or thornton) that are even smaller. Not much difference which is your point but the bottom line is that if we bring in a 6'2 230 lb guy that means that bulluck at 6'3 235 has to move over.
If bulluck isn't sam or mlb sized then that would be the whole issue isn't it? We are talking abiout 2 guys(witherspoon or thornton) that are even smaller. Not much difference which is your point but the bottom line is that if we bring in a 6'2 230 lb guy that means that bulluck at 6'3 235 has to move over.
Not neccesarily. 5 Pounds difference does not mean that the heavier guy has to move over, but it copuld be the case.
A lot has to do with, which LB has better technique, better strength, ability to fill ad take on blockers.
A lot has to do with, which LB has better technique, better strength, ability to fill ad take on blockers.
Are we going to be like the colts?
The colts use small fast linebackers. Thornton is 6'2 230 and cato june is even a little smaller at 6'0 227. Yet both were very effective and june made the pro bowl.
Reese did say that he was willing to sacrifice some size for speed but also said that we probably can't go as far as the colts because our system is different. But here is our problem. Our defensive ends are not physical run stoppers. KVB is not great against the run and la-boy is even weaker. Odom is only ok. If we get even smaller outside that could be a problem. Sirmon is not very quick any more but he is a physical player and a very good tackler. We move sirmon to the inside and have bulluck plus witherspoon or thornton will we be physical enough on the edges?
The problem is made even worse by the fact we have 2 gunny sized corners who can't seem to tackle. :howdy:
The colts use small fast linebackers. Thornton is 6'2 230 and cato june is even a little smaller at 6'0 227. Yet both were very effective and june made the pro bowl.
Reese did say that he was willing to sacrifice some size for speed but also said that we probably can't go as far as the colts because our system is different. But here is our problem. Our defensive ends are not physical run stoppers. KVB is not great against the run and la-boy is even weaker. Odom is only ok. If we get even smaller outside that could be a problem. Sirmon is not very quick any more but he is a physical player and a very good tackler. We move sirmon to the inside and have bulluck plus witherspoon or thornton will we be physical enough on the edges?
The problem is made even worse by the fact we have 2 gunny sized corners who can't seem to tackle. :howdy:
One way to solve the problem of not having ends that can stop the run would be to draft Mario Williams which I'm not convinced won't happen...
Fighting titan...
I'm going to agree with you. Both thornton and witherspoon played the strong side last year so why not for the titans? So yes it probably is likely that bulluck stays put and the new guy whoever that is plays there because we don't want to compromise bulluck's effectiveness.
The real issue i guess then is to compare sirmon to those guys since sirmon has been our starting sam for some time and before his injury was a very good player. Sirmon is 6'2 237.
So forget everything i said.::yell2:
So maybe our biggest problem is our smallish DEs and our pee wee sized corners which is something we really can't help. They have to play if that is the best we have. Would be nice if woolfolk could step up and help in this matter.
I'm going to agree with you. Both thornton and witherspoon played the strong side last year so why not for the titans? So yes it probably is likely that bulluck stays put and the new guy whoever that is plays there because we don't want to compromise bulluck's effectiveness.
The real issue i guess then is to compare sirmon to those guys since sirmon has been our starting sam for some time and before his injury was a very good player. Sirmon is 6'2 237.
So forget everything i said.::yell2:
So maybe our biggest problem is our smallish DEs and our pee wee sized corners which is something we really can't help. They have to play if that is the best we have. Would be nice if woolfolk could step up and help in this matter.
Danny...
You know what maybe that should happen. If young falls back and we pass on him and cutler isn't rated quite high enough to take third maybe we will have no choice but to draft a stud at another position and dbrick, williams or hawk might be better choices. Hawk looked like a monster at the combine with a 4.57 40 time and 24 reps. Williams looks like a real stud and dbrick would be our starting left tackle for the next 13 years.
We draft hawk and pick up a witherspoon or thornton we can then let sirmon go and save some cap room. We draft willaims and maybe we can deal la-boy for a much needed third rd pick and then use that pick for a brody croyle.
Needless to say we do have other options and a QB might not be the best one.
You know what maybe that should happen. If young falls back and we pass on him and cutler isn't rated quite high enough to take third maybe we will have no choice but to draft a stud at another position and dbrick, williams or hawk might be better choices. Hawk looked like a monster at the combine with a 4.57 40 time and 24 reps. Williams looks like a real stud and dbrick would be our starting left tackle for the next 13 years.
We draft hawk and pick up a witherspoon or thornton we can then let sirmon go and save some cap room. We draft willaims and maybe we can deal la-boy for a much needed third rd pick and then use that pick for a brody croyle.
Needless to say we do have other options and a QB might not be the best one.
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