How about a conditional third round pick in 2007 that becomes a second round pick if he plays well?
do it i think i would love him here but he would have to heal quick. I would cry because i really want hawk or feurguson
My feelings on this is just take one of the 3 in the draft. Culpepper had a nasty injury last season and nothing would be for sure with him. Stick with the draft!
MadAboutMcNair said:
2003 and 2004 were not good back to back seasons?
96 and 110 rating. 64 TDs to only 22 ints.
Throw in the fact he ran for over 400 yards both of those years.
For his career he has 135 TD to 86 ints and a career 91.5 rating.
Last year was a terrible year for him and we would have to have assurance he is going to be healthy but he is a darn good QB and any QB we draft will be lucky to turn out that good.
just FYI this info is not true................Dante threw the titans name to the ESPN reporter............he is trying to stir the pot to get out of Minn..........Reese had to call Mac and Cook to relay that info.
bongo59 said:
maybe Duante actually wants to be here
which could mean he might not be a money whore
I'd rather spend a 2nd round pick on a guy that threw for 4717 yds and 39 TD's - and is a proven ,seasoned vet
then I would the #3 overall on a crap shoot that may not be ready for years
we could then trade our #3 for a flurry of other picks (the 2nd for Duante plus the 3rd spent on Travis) and we'd be in better shape
ooh, the possibilities
(not to mention the bounty created by trading Volek AND McNair)
then I would the #3 overall on a crap shoot that may not be ready for years
we could then trade our #3 for a flurry of other picks (the 2nd for Duante plus the 3rd spent on Travis) and we'd be in better shape
ooh, the possibilities
(not to mention the bounty created by trading Volek AND McNair)
Zygi looks like he just wants Duante out
and might just deal him to who ever works the fastest
Mr.Reese, you have Mr. Wilf on the red-phone
and might just deal him to who ever works the fastest
Mr.Reese, you have Mr. Wilf on the red-phone
ESPN.com said:
Dammit..I don't like that...wheres the Titan's say in this matter?
though an injury shortened year, his numbers were iffy without moss.
Titans | Team out of Culpepper race
Sat, 11 Mar 2006 14:28:16 -0800
ESPN.com's John Clayton and Len Pasquarelli report Tennessee Titans general manager Floyd Reese officially notified the Minnesota Vikings that he is no longer interested and won't do any more bidding for QB Daunte Culpepper. Reese labeled the talks exploratory and said he liked the current group of Titans quarterbacks. He said that the Titans will concentrate on longer term solutions in the future as opposed to a short-term acquisition. The Titans were reportedly a finalist in the Culpepper bidding, along with the Miami Dolphins and Oakland Raiders. The Vikings overplayed their hand at bit Friday, March 10, by putting a deadline on three of the teams they were talking to in trade conversations. All three had the perception from the Vikings that one of the teams was offering a second-round pick.
Sat, 11 Mar 2006 14:28:16 -0800
ESPN.com's John Clayton and Len Pasquarelli report Tennessee Titans general manager Floyd Reese officially notified the Minnesota Vikings that he is no longer interested and won't do any more bidding for QB Daunte Culpepper. Reese labeled the talks exploratory and said he liked the current group of Titans quarterbacks. He said that the Titans will concentrate on longer term solutions in the future as opposed to a short-term acquisition. The Titans were reportedly a finalist in the Culpepper bidding, along with the Miami Dolphins and Oakland Raiders. The Vikings overplayed their hand at bit Friday, March 10, by putting a deadline on three of the teams they were talking to in trade conversations. All three had the perception from the Vikings that one of the teams was offering a second-round pick.
I don't think Culpepper would be right for us anyway. He has way too many turnovers, and he was terrible as a quarterback last year. The only time he was good is when he had Randy Moss. We are better off getting a young quarterback that will be able to produce for many more years.
Culpepper vs mcnair...
I would rate them even now but only because culpepper is coming off that knee injury. It's sad to think that mcnair's last great season may have occured at the tender age of 30. Sad when you see how older QBs have performed from rich gannon winning an mvp at age 37 to a guy like trent green going to the pro bowl at 35 and drew bledsoe having a good season at 33. Of course john elway won his two super bowls beyond 35. Buy steve, now 33 looks like an old QB.
I don't understand posters who write about mcnair as if this was 2002 or 2003. I see the same thing when we talk about reese or fisher. It's as if 2005 never happened. The bottom line is that steve mcnair after winning the mvp in 2003 has been just an average QB. he was horrible in 2004 missing half the season and mediocre in 2005. He hasn't run for significant yardage in a season since 2002.
Steve mcnair without that running game is very probably ordinary and so is culpepper which is the problem. Culpepper who turns 30 himself this year is coming off a major knee injury which means he may have to rely totally on his arm, certainly in a few years that will be true. Will he also just become average?
I would rate them even now but only because culpepper is coming off that knee injury. It's sad to think that mcnair's last great season may have occured at the tender age of 30. Sad when you see how older QBs have performed from rich gannon winning an mvp at age 37 to a guy like trent green going to the pro bowl at 35 and drew bledsoe having a good season at 33. Of course john elway won his two super bowls beyond 35. Buy steve, now 33 looks like an old QB.
I don't understand posters who write about mcnair as if this was 2002 or 2003. I see the same thing when we talk about reese or fisher. It's as if 2005 never happened. The bottom line is that steve mcnair after winning the mvp in 2003 has been just an average QB. he was horrible in 2004 missing half the season and mediocre in 2005. He hasn't run for significant yardage in a season since 2002.
Steve mcnair without that running game is very probably ordinary and so is culpepper which is the problem. Culpepper who turns 30 himself this year is coming off a major knee injury which means he may have to rely totally on his arm, certainly in a few years that will be true. Will he also just become average?
I could live with it, but it's not near as exciting as a Vince era.
I'm ready for a new QB (like Vince...or whomever...like Vince). I do think that if Steve DECIDES he REALLY wants to play for a few more seasons, he'll do well, and maybe his best is yet to come, too.
Steve's best is gone. He has one decent year left in him, maybe two. Besides he can't stay healthy.
Rethinking culpepper.......
The turnover issue is legit. This guy has put the ball on the ground 69 times since 2001! Yikes! That is horrible. Mcnair by comparison has 38 fumbles and mcnabb 40 fumbles and manning just 25 fumbles.
I know he is no longer an issue for ther titans but evaluating him as a player we have to take that into account and it knocks him down a notch or two.
The turnover issue is legit. This guy has put the ball on the ground 69 times since 2001! Yikes! That is horrible. Mcnair by comparison has 38 fumbles and mcnabb 40 fumbles and manning just 25 fumbles.
I know he is no longer an issue for ther titans but evaluating him as a player we have to take that into account and it knocks him down a notch or two.
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