Plausible deniability is definitely an argumentative point.
That came up so much in the Paterno case and it seemed like the court system kind of let guys like McQuery off the hook even though he was telling the story that he couldn’t say plausible deniability (I don’t believe he claimed it either).
I think there is real deniability among some of the coaches, maybe not all.
I think some are probably guilty of encouraging in one form or another, maybe even present as it happened.
I think the issue is, as it was at pedo state, is that the coaches should've known.
Much of this happened in the locker room. They also kept lists of freshmen to be dry raped on the wall of the locker room. And it went on for many years. No one asked "why are these names here?"
I still see plenty of gray area. Maybe not so much for HC or even coord, but getting into assistants and other positional coaches, I could see them having genuine ignorance.I think the issue is, as it was at pedo state, is that the coaches should've known.
Much of this happened in the locker room. They also kept lists of freshmen to be dry raped on the wall of the locker room. And it went on for many years. No one asked "why are these names here?"
didn’t know about the list, but if it didn’t specify a “punishment”, anyone asking may have gotten a BS story that wasn’t against the rules. Is naive the same as looking the other way? Tough to say what they “should” have known without all the details of being there.
The coaches and trainers and other people in those locker rooms know what goes on. Hell, wouldn't be surprised if some of them weren't present when stuff like that happened and they just laugh it off.I think the issue is, as it was at pedo state, is that the coaches should've known.
Much of this happened in the locker room. They also kept lists of freshmen to be dry raped on the wall of the locker room. And it went on for many years. No one asked "why are these names here?"
Guarantee 100 few know of Sgt Schultz
Plausible deniability is a popular excuse. Much of this happened though in the locker room.
The point is they should've known and not pretend to be colonel klink
There are zero “kids” in CollegeAnd you don’t think hazing goes on at every school?
Hell, it goes on in the NFL
No excuse for any “sexual assault”
Kids (the assaulters) should be punished
And yes anyone displaying that behavior is a “kid”!
“Hey, knock it off. Quit acting gay on the rookies. We don’t tolerate graying off around here.”
WTF is going on these days?
WTF is going on these days?
“Hey, knock it off. Quit acting gay on the rookies. We don’t tolerate graying off around here.”
WTF is going on these days?
Quit sexually assaulting the rookies
It's sexual assault
Just because it's homosexual acts doesn't change that
Guarantee 100 few know of Sgt Schultz
You jolly jokers!
It’s gay sexual assault. WTF is going in these days?Quit sexually assaulting the rookies
It's sexual assault
Just because it's homosexual acts doesn't change that
So you think sexual assault is just kid stuff? Despite your feelings what they did fits the criminal definition of sexual assault. And the law doesn't care about your feelings
There is also a school rule against it.
You might enjoy having a bunch of guys hold you down and dry hump you but not everyone does. And it is sexual assault
Sexual assault?
Come on now, that's pretty overboard based on the facts.
I'm sorry you feel that way but the law doesn't care about your feelingsSexual assault?
Come on now, that's pretty overboard based on the facts.
If you hold someone down and rub your cock against their ass it's sexual assault.
Go up to a woman in public and do that, then watch what happens
I'm sorry you feel that way but the law doesn't care about your feelings
If you hold someone down and rub your cock against their ass it's sexual assault.
Go up to a woman in public and do that, then watch what happens
Dry humping with clothes on. Not nearly the picture you're painting.
Guys did this sort of childish shit all the time in high school. Shanked teammates out on in the hall way. Popping someone in the balls. Farting in your face if they caught you sleeping.
All acts that could legitimately be called "sexual assault" by the law. Half of your high schools would be in jail/juvy if we enforced this to the T.
while true.... these are 'adult' idots who risked their scholarships & freedom because of stupid crap... I get it they are not 52 years old but they 100% knew the crap was against the rules... and choose to behave like morons anyways .... just like it was still high schoolDry humping with clothes on. Not nearly the picture you're painting.
Guys did this sort of childish **** all the time in high school. Shanked teammates out on in the hall way. Popping someone in the balls. Farting in your face if they caught you sleeping.
All acts that could legitimately be called "sexual assault" by the law. Half of your high schools would be in jail/juvy if we enforced this to the T.
Yes they could and you’re 100% correct, they could police the schools and convict all these hazers as sexual offenders.Dry humping with clothes on. Not nearly the picture you're painting.
Guys did this sort of childish **** all the time in high school. Shanked teammates out on in the hall way. Popping someone in the balls. Farting in your face if they caught you sleeping.
All acts that could legitimately be called "sexual assault" by the law. Half of your high schools would be in jail/juvy if we enforced this to the T.
pretty glad to know these “games” are pretty much gone and punished harshly.
No need, no benefit, no gain, no learning lesson. Just pointless, demeaning harassment/sexual harassment/assault/sexual assault.
shouldn’t be tolerated and shouldn’t be looked back on fondly.
Sort of- they are minors. So the laws and punishment are applied with that in consideration.Yes they could and you’re 100% correct, they could police the schools and convict all these hazers as sexual offenders.
pretty glad to know these “games” are pretty much gone and punished harshly.
No need, no benefit, no gain, no learning lesson. Just pointless, demeaning harassment/sexual harassment/assault/sexual assault.
shouldn’t be tolerated and shouldn’t be looked back on fondly.
zero are minors... they were all 18+Sort of- they are minors. So the laws and punishment are applied with that in consideration.
The title of this thread is extremely misleading. There is a significant difference between hazing and a "recruiting" scandal. A recruiting scandal would be what transpired with Pitino at Louisville. Was Peter supplying prostitutes or money to prospective Northwestern recruits? Brandon Miller is in the NBA, some hazing that transpired at the NCAA level really ain't gonna make a shit in the grand scheme of things with Peter's NFL career.
Talking about the high school referencezero are minors... they were all 18+
I think he was referring to the comment about high schoolers.zero are minors... they were all 18+
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