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Very good article. Excellent.

But have we been burned a little too much by "upside" recently? Specifically Woolfolk, Calico, Pacman. Maybe it makes sense to weight some other factors a little more - though admitedly injuries contribute here.
 
smili said:
Very good article. Excellent.

But have we been burned a little too much by "upside" recently? Specifically Woolfolk, Calico, Pacman. Maybe it makes sense to weight some other factors a little more - though admitedly injuries contribute here.
not such with pacman, he wasnt a great cb this year but he will get much better, but he is probally the best kick/punt returner in the league hes so fast i think he ran a 4.32 forty, and we can use him on offense as a really fast weapon or as a decoy, hes gonna be one of the best there is i garuntee it, well i only garuntee that if he is able to stay out of trouble, and i wish i could be a fan of him but i cant because hes just such a jerk to so many people
 
Pacman's going to jail eventually. Move over Jamal Lewis. Bogota Jones is in the house.

The only good thing about that is we'll get back a HUGE cap relief when it happens.

I hope I'm wrong about this, but come on. A car registered to someone in Vegas with his nickname embroidered into the upholstery where Pacman allegedly gambles all the time? Why is that car in someone else's name? Did he ever own it? Was that a casino loan, or was it reposessed because of debt? Who puts cars in other people's names because they don't want you to know they have off-the-book money?

Too many questions. Too close for comfort. I know nothing has happened yet, but the circle gets closer every day.

But to get back on topic, great read by the way.
 
On Pacman - I love what he brings on special teams, but either the Titans got blindsided by the off-the-field issues or were far too willing to overlook problems for the upside. I can't recall a more disruptive influence on the team since they've been here.

BTW, I think I want some Vince Young too, but admitedly I don't have much to base it on other than the superstar performance in the Rose Bowl.

I'd also be in favor of trading down if the price is right and the Titans evaluate all 3 QB "close enough". Seems there's a lot of talent in this year's draft and picking up some extra 2nd and 3rd rd picks makes sense too if we can still get one of 3 QB in the first.
 
smili said:
Very good article. Excellent.

But have we been burned a little too much by "upside" recently? Specifically Woolfolk, Calico, Pacman. Maybe it makes sense to weight some other factors a little more - though admitedly injuries contribute here.
There's no way we can judge the Pacman choice yet. As for Calico and Woolfolk, some will say injuries have impacted both to the point it isn't fair to judge them either. I think this season will make or break both of them.
 
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the Titans will take Vince Young.
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TitanFanBudMan said:
I think Jeff and Floyd get another year if Leinert shows promise by game 12. I don't think they will be around to see Vince if they go that direction.

TitanFanBudMan - good point on need to win now.

Regardless of who they pick it doesn't seem the Titan's way to throw a rookie QB in there. Reese has said he likes to sit them - that playing them too soon can mess up good prospects permanently.
 
TitanJeff said:
There's no way we can judge the Pacman choice yet. As for Calico and Woolfolk, some will say injuries have impacted both to the point it isn't fair to judge them either. I think this season will make or break both of them.

Wow Jeff, you are right on the this year making or breaking, based on how things went for Tony Beckham in particular. Two or 3 games into the season and people were darn near calling for his retirement. I believe Andre and Tyrone will explode literally and regardless of expectations or preceptions, both of these guys playing better, obviously makes the Titans a better team.
 
WoolfolksUncle said:
Wow Jeff, you are right on the this year making or breaking, based on how things went for Tony Beckham in particular. Two or 3 games into the season and people were darn near calling for his retirement. I believe Andre and Tyrone will explode literally and regardless of expectations or preceptions, both of these guys playing better, obviously makes the Titans a better team.
It'll be difficult for both, I think. They both know they have one shot left and if the coaches don't see them as being part of the team's longterm plans, they may not get as many opportunities. They'll have to really show something on the practice field and take advantage of any opportunity they get.

Woolfolk has the better shot to stick, IMO. Beckham is gone and Gardner may be as well. The Titans haven't brought in a vet CB (so far) which is a good sign for him.

Calico has Givens now ahead of him and three younger guys breathing down his neck. He could dramatically improve and not have a shot for a longterm deal if the young guys continue to improve.
 
The pressure is on, but Calico is really in a rough spot. Even if he does really well, and gets another offer, it won't be a great one.
 
Remember, that at the end of the season, all the rookies just lost all the energy, injuries cropt up (Ronnie Brown), and they got stressed that they couldn't do the things they did at the start of the season(Pacman).

Anyways, good article Jeff, appreciate it!!!
 
GoTitans3801 said:
The pressure is on, but Calico is really in a rough spot. Even if he does really well, and gets another offer, it won't be a great one.

If he could somehow put up similar numbers to McCareins in 2003 (47 catches, 800 yards) he would make real good money IMO with his size and speed. The problem is going to be #1, getting on the field with two decent WRs ahead of him and 2nd year jocking for playing time. Also we have a group of real good TEs. Problem #2 is the QB.

Calico's best bet might be to have Volek as his QB where he can make some big catches. Long TD catches would help his pocket book.
 
Soxcat said:
If he could somehow put up similar numbers to McCareins in 2003 (47 catches, 800 yards) he would make real good money IMO with his size and speed. The problem is going to be #1, getting on the field with two decent WRs ahead of him and 2nd year jocking for playing time. Also we have a group of real good TEs. Problem #2 is the QB.

Calico's best bet might be to have Volek as his QB where he can make some big catches. Long TD catches would help his pocket book.
yea, having brandon jones in there withhim is really hard, hes gonna have to work at it much harder than he has before
 
GhostZ said:
yea, having brandon jones in there withhim is really hard, hes gonna have to work at it much harder than he has before
I don't think we can count on Jones much until mid-season or later. But Roby and Williams should be better and, if they are productive, will get opportunities. That all eats into what Calico will get unless he begins to play on a much higher level.
 
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