Just wondering what everyone thinks...considering we are back on the win now campaign
I totally think any three of these prospects could and would be better with two years of experience behind them. With norm there to help they would be very good.
Yeh, I feel that these next two years will be the turning point of this franchise
After two years they would probably be an upgrade. But during the next two years? Not so much.
Most of the top QBs don't even see the field their rookie season and those that do usually put up some ugly numbers. I think McNair would out-produce a rookie for '06 and '07 but that isn't the issue.
The issue is that much of the talent on the team now will be entering their prime beginning in '07 and the Titans should have a number of years where they'll challenge. Do you want to have a rookie step in then or a guy who has a couple of seasons under his belt?
The issue is that much of the talent on the team now will be entering their prime beginning in '07 and the Titans should have a number of years where they'll challenge. Do you want to have a rookie step in then or a guy who has a couple of seasons under his belt?
TitanJeff said:
We need McNair for 2 more years, the team is starting to mature, and ih is still around for 2 more years, the Titans can comeback where they belong, to the top of the NFL. Draft VY and let learn for 2 years under Steve and throw him to the wolves in '08.
I agree with Jeff. In a perfect scenario we would draft a guy like Leinart, maybe let him sit for a year and he would hit his stride about the right time to get back to the SB. IMO Leinart would be as effective as McNair even if he started next year.
McNair had 16 TDs with 11 ints last year with an 82 passing rating. I don't think it is unreasonable for a guy like Leinart to put up those kind of numbers in Chow's system even as a rookie. Especially if we can improve our running game some and play better defense to take some pressure off the QB. Leinart and Ben Roethlisberger are similar type players IMO and Ben had a 98 rating his first year.
McNair had 16 TDs with 11 ints last year with an 82 passing rating. I don't think it is unreasonable for a guy like Leinart to put up those kind of numbers in Chow's system even as a rookie. Especially if we can improve our running game some and play better defense to take some pressure off the QB. Leinart and Ben Roethlisberger are similar type players IMO and Ben had a 98 rating his first year.
I don't understand the question in the poll...
Are you asking if a rookie/sophmore can win more than 9 out 32 games?
Are you asking if a rookie/sophmore can win more than 9 out 32 games?
That's harsh dude! His supporting cast was less than spectacular....not to mention the defense...sheesh.SEC 330 BIPOLAR said:
As far as a rookie outperforming Steve...don't think so...especially if that rookie if Cutler.
ABC (Anyone But Cutler)
Soxcat said:
I don't follow. You said Leinart would be as effective as McNair even if he started next year. You then go on to say that we could make this happen by improving the rest of our team. That doesn't even make sense.
I think the production would be similar. Why you ask? Poor production from the rest of the O last year. Improved production this year from the supporting cast and the second year of the new scheme. No kick on Steve but 4 wins is not hard to duplicate.
it's almost a moot point
unless this is a playoff bound team this year - who cares
it would only get ugly if we made it to the playoffs with McNair next year and then let him go .... think on that a bit
unless this is a playoff bound team this year - who cares
it would only get ugly if we made it to the playoffs with McNair next year and then let him go .... think on that a bit
ok ill pull out the card that says "lets be serious" on it and think...
im going with mcnair 100% in this one, no contest...
im going with mcnair 100% in this one, no contest...
if your putting all the fault on steve for us only winning 4 games last year your out of your mind...
So many don't even understand the question..
The question has to do with what kind of team we will have the next 2 years and what kind of team you want to have. We will have the talent to win in 2006 i believe that. We certainly will have that talent in 2007. Do we want to compromise the chance at success by breaking in some kid QB?
Soxcat foolishly tries to use the example of rothlisberger who is a rare example of a guy who was very good right away. Why not use the more realistic example of carson palmer who was not first rate until his third season. Is the 2004 version of palmer(passing rating 77) good enough to get you to the super bowl?
The question has to do with what kind of team we will have the next 2 years and what kind of team you want to have. We will have the talent to win in 2006 i believe that. We certainly will have that talent in 2007. Do we want to compromise the chance at success by breaking in some kid QB?
Soxcat foolishly tries to use the example of rothlisberger who is a rare example of a guy who was very good right away. Why not use the more realistic example of carson palmer who was not first rate until his third season. Is the 2004 version of palmer(passing rating 77) good enough to get you to the super bowl?
Well I would say if and bite my tonge. Titans draft VY and #9 gives the best 2 years of his career and VY would be ready in 2.
I can't speak for Slipjack but I'm self confessed to be out of my mind on any given day. I'm not putting responsibility for only 9 wins in two season solely on McNair. I'm actually just being an off season hater. I defended McNair during the season and I do think he's a remarkable guy and has got the guts of a champion. The simple fact is I'm turned of by Bus, his agent... but I realize he's doing his job... I just wish he's keep it out of the papers. I'm reminded of the EG debacle and I'm just hardening up my heart on MAC by being a hater... just so I won't be even more PO'ed if he does leave.bulluck4dMVP said:
As for performance... There were games last year when the offense completely choked out. Some of that you can lay on Steve but most of it is about the other 10 guys... not to mention 11 others on D the totally got creamed. I have always maintained in the sane potion of my head that McNair gives us our best chance to win. His cap # is way to high but that is not really Steve's fault so much cause as I understand it his pay has more or less been deferred in the past and now it's time to pay...
A rookie isn't going to be able to play but there is no guarentee that MAC is going to be able to make his starts and have his back in decent shape. RollTide makes an issue of Steve not being old... cites examples of Joe Montana and the like... but... did Joe have chronic injuries? (I haven't looked it up, sorry :hmm
Anyhow... It's very wait and see. When did Neal O'donnel realize that he wasn't all that and a bag of chips? I think McNair should start and I hope he wins. If (feels more like when) McNair goes down... I hope VY gets a shot. I think Young is being underestimated and he could prove to be a real power house... Of course I could be wrong... Then again... I am right sometimes.
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