Lots of Polian/Colts bashing on this board. That's okay...I expect to see that here.
But I don't see much Reese bashing, despite the fact you've been in cap hell for a couple of years, probably will be for another year or two, and McNair counts $24 million against your salary cap...a ridiculous amount for a guy nearing the end of his career (IMO).
So...if you had your choice between the two, who would be your GM?
But I don't see much Reese bashing, despite the fact you've been in cap hell for a couple of years, probably will be for another year or two, and McNair counts $24 million against your salary cap...a ridiculous amount for a guy nearing the end of his career (IMO).
So...if you had your choice between the two, who would be your GM?
TitanJeff said:
Sure, but what's your feeling today?
I'm not trying to be a jerk...just asking what I think is an interesting question. There are plenty of Colts fans that don't like Polian. I'm just wondering if there are a lot of Titans fans that don't like Reese, and if they'd consider Polian an 'upgrade' or not.
While McNair might count 24 million against the cap, it is because McNair's contract has been constantly renegioted over several years, adding all of the money into one huge cap hit.
Polian spending money like Dan Snyder is going to kill the Colts, especially since the Colts wont win a SuperBowl as long as Peyton is QB
Polian spending money like Dan Snyder is going to kill the Colts, especially since the Colts wont win a SuperBowl as long as Peyton is QB
"At issue, for now, are roster bonuses of $9 million due Manning and $10 million due Harrison. The Colts intended to implement a normal bookkeeping maneuver that converts a roster bonus into a signing bonus and prorating it over the next four years. That would have lowered Manning's '06 cap number from $17.766 million to $10 million and Harrison's cap hit from $14.4 million to $6.9 million.wino said:
Suddenly, whether the team can re-sign running back Edgerrin James, one of 11 players who will become an unrestricted free agent Friday, might be the least of its worries. If Manning and Harrison count a combined $32 million against the cap, the Colts probably will have to jettison several players"
I'm not that familiar with Polian or the Colts cap situation enough to comment on his job. No doubt the Colts have done very well keeping their talent. But it'll likely catch up to them as it did the Titans in time.wino said:
I will say Reese's performance, IMO, has taken a few shots lately. Many of his early picks have had injury issues and you have a number of guys like:
Albert Haynesworth - first round
Tank Williams - second round
Tyrone Calico - second round
Andre Woolfolk - first round
who should be the core of the team but have been nursing major injuries too often and/or have just been disappointments. Fair or not, the finger gets pointed at Reese.
But you have to add to the mix Reese finding a Justin McCarein here or there.
Then you have the cap issue that could not be avoided, IMO. Reese kept a competitive team together as long as he could. But many question whether Reese kept it together too long or should have let some aging vets go sooner. You know what they say about hindsight.
Add to the mix the Godfrey release which many say eventually cost the Titans any compensation for Kearse because Eddie George, Mason and Rolle were unwilling to rework their deals. In hindsight, it was maybe a blessing in disguise.
The Pacman pick will take a couple of years before we know if it was good or bad. Same for a lot of the previous draft class. The future of the Titans depends a lot on what Troupe, LaBoy, Odom and Starks do.
And now you have a QB on the backside of his career sucking up 25% of the team's cap when it desperately needs free agency help on defense. Could Reese have avoided that? Maybe. But how?
We must remember Reese is the guy who brought in KVB. So it ain't all bad. He also has a seventh-rounder who looks to be the future as a #2 corner. There's value. :brow:
Offset that with what looks like a mistake in bringing in Henry.
So that's why I say ask again in '07. :lol:
maximus said:
And Reese was the GM that did that. So the question is: Would you take Polian over Reese? Your vote in the poll reveals your answer. Thanks.
maximus said:
A comparison to Dan Snyder is a little far-fetched, IMO. Okay...veeery far-fetched.
And your hatred (jealousy?) of Manning really isn't the topic...it's about the GMs and the job they're doing. But thanks for the input.
bigtitan53279 said:
It still remains to be seen if the Colts get some relief from this or not. With a new CBA these numbers could come down significantly. Even if they don't, though, I'll bet I'm happier paying $18 for Peyton than you are for paying $24 for Steve.
Jeff,
Every GM finds diamonds in the rough. Polian has certainly found his share, too. He gets a lot of love for his late-round (2nd day) picks. He's not big on spending lots of money on free agents, and when he does there are mixed results. Tyrone Poole and Corey Simon come to mind....each at opposite ends of the spectrum.
Thanks for your response. I'm not real familiar with the Titans situation, just as you are not familiar with the Colts situation. So a little sharing of insight is kinda nice.
Every GM finds diamonds in the rough. Polian has certainly found his share, too. He gets a lot of love for his late-round (2nd day) picks. He's not big on spending lots of money on free agents, and when he does there are mixed results. Tyrone Poole and Corey Simon come to mind....each at opposite ends of the spectrum.
Thanks for your response. I'm not real familiar with the Titans situation, just as you are not familiar with the Colts situation. So a little sharing of insight is kinda nice.
Moronic!
There is no better GM in the nfl than polian. He built a team that made the super bowl 4 straight years and his colts have made the playoffs 6 of the last 7.
Only a moron, a 1 score on the wonderlic would rate reese better as we come off of cap hell and a 4-12 season.
Wino is right.
There is no better GM in the nfl than polian. He built a team that made the super bowl 4 straight years and his colts have made the playoffs 6 of the last 7.
Only a moron, a 1 score on the wonderlic would rate reese better as we come off of cap hell and a 4-12 season.
Wino is right.
why are you even a Titan fan?
You seem to only like opposition players and FO personell.
Still can't get over your Gannon best QB in the NFL when McNair was playing at an All Pro level.
and for the record it is looking like Wile E. Polian has had an anvil dropped on his head by that Special Master.
You seem to only like opposition players and FO personell.
Still can't get over your Gannon best QB in the NFL when McNair was playing at an All Pro level.
and for the record it is looking like Wile E. Polian has had an anvil dropped on his head by that Special Master.
Tide, you should go out and get yourself some predjudices.
You are always playing the race card in football arguments but you won't let anyone dislike somebody because they don't like their haircut. What is up with that? There is a thing called respect for opposition and just being a butt-munch. So what if everything Polian seems to touch turns to gold? What is the point in getting the dung on the nose? Pride is a sin but when it comes to football teams it's better to wear it well then disrobe for the foe. :sad2:
You are always playing the race card in football arguments but you won't let anyone dislike somebody because they don't like their haircut. What is up with that? There is a thing called respect for opposition and just being a butt-munch. So what if everything Polian seems to touch turns to gold? What is the point in getting the dung on the nose? Pride is a sin but when it comes to football teams it's better to wear it well then disrobe for the foe. :sad2:
I'm going with the only guy who has put together an AFC Champion for his current team...
RollTide said:
How many Super Bowls has your GM taken your current colt's team to? Mine has taken my team there once and we were a yard short of either going into overtime or winning it. Only a moron would not be able to comprehend something this simple.:banned:
There's a song by the Australian group "The Tenants" that I think of every tme I read a post by Rolltide.
Here's a link to the lyrics. Anyone who can download a copy should do so. it's very catchy.
http://www.lyricsandsongs.com/song/515992.html
Here's a link to the lyrics. Anyone who can download a copy should do so. it's very catchy.
http://www.lyricsandsongs.com/song/515992.html
yet he and reese have the same amount of SB rings.RollTide said:
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