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Slipjack said:
Two rookie corners, slow linebackers in a divsion where the top team passes. You make it work. Cut it any way you like it is a combination of lack of talent and poor coaching. By the way Fisher was a ST guy, not a great DB.


Which is exactly why the Titans should have committed to hitting the QB, whoever the opponent was, every time they passed. Personal foul or not.

Dehr Schwartzie, when the Titans did have a third down, had the DBs backbeddaling with a 5+ yard cushion on third and 7! Inexcusiable. Simply a free first down for the O.

The Schwartzen D COUNTED on the opposition to make a mistake, instead of forcing the play to conclude quickly and therefore occasionally forcing the O into a mistake.

I could go on but I think we both agree that a good DC would have his players playing to their strengths instead of allowing the O to operate in an unpressured scrimmage like atmosphere.

The majority plays the D made were when a player would happen to dominate on any given play.

based on the LBs last season the last thing the Titans should have wanted was for them to be playing in space. The Titans rarely blitzed and kept the LB in zone most of the time on passing downs. SCHWARTZ!!!!


heres some numbers to illustrate exactly how passive the Schwartz D has been over the last two seasons.

Year TD INT TD:INT PPG
2005 33 9 3.67 26.3
2004 29 18 1.61 27.4
Total 62 27 2.30 26.9
NFL-Total 1376 TD 1031 INT
NFL-Avg 43.0 TD 32.2 INT 1.33 TD:INT 21.0 PPG

Titans gave up 19 more TDs than the average NFL club over the two year period. Would be greater if the awful Titan D was eliminated from the data set. Titans got 5 less picks than the average NFL club, BUT the Titan TD:INT ratio was a whole TD greater than the NFL average.

Heres a troubling little stat nibble. The Titans have allowed 188.8 points more than the average NFL team over the last two seasons. That is over the last 32 games the Titans have allowed 188.8 points more than the NFL average of 21.0. It is absured that the DC responsible for this football carnage would still be employed.

For reference the 2001 Titan D allowed 191 points for the year.
 
Spinnaker said:
And I highly disagree with whats-his-name's comment on us having no talent last year on Defense, We had tremendous talent: Bulluck, Haynesworth, VANDEN BOSCH!, waddell could have been a good corner but was ruined by coaching, he was very fast, Thompson just needed a little work and could have been a premier Safety.
Waddell wouldn't make most teams... He's terrible. It's hard to believe you would even use that as an example. As for the other three, that was it for our D last year. Sorry but it takes more than three good players to compete these days. It is still a team sport, right?


You know we had some of the most talent in the league but just couldn't harness it.
Probably one of the most laughable statements I've ever read...:ha: Agian, I'm certainly not claiming that we played to our potential but we had crappy players in the since that many were rooks and young players and some just plain sucked. With the addition of Hope and Thorton along with another years experience we should make big improvements. If we don't then it's time to make a move.
 
LazyManJackson said:
According to soem people on this forum, Jesse Mehelona is a good prospect, maybe he could take over that job from Starks, we'll see.................

Of course you're gonna get that here... he's from UT. But Mahelona is not a better prospect than Starks was coming out, and Starks has a couple of years of NFL seasoning on top of that. Starks didn't make as many "stat" plays last year as he did his rookie year, but he's still the second best DT on our team. Starks is only 23, and I believe this year will be a mini break out year for him. Long, Clauss, and Mehelona will make a fine rotation.
 
name 4 stud players from the Washington Redskins Defense. Sean Taylor, Lavar Arrington(played one quarter of the defensive snaps) and Shawn Springs(always considered an underachiever) are the only players that come to my mind. But their defense led them to the playoffs, they were young and not overly studly, yet they got the job done because they were put in a position to succeed and highlight their attributes. I'm not chanting for Gregg Williams, but the Redskins are an easy example and were the first on my mind.
 
Jwill1919 said:
name 4 stud players from the Washington Redskins Defense. Sean Taylor, Lavar Arrington(played one quarter of the defensive snaps) and Shawn Springs(always considered an underachiever) are the only players that come to my mind. But their defense led them to the playoffs, they were young and not overly studly, yet they got the job done because they were put in a position to succeed and highlight their attributes. I'm not chanting for Gregg Williams, but the Redskins are an easy example and were the first on my mind.
They had better DB's all the way around. They didn't have a single rookie Corner that played on the team, let alone that started. We had two. They have Sean Taylor at S, we have L Thompson. No diference there?:suspect: Our LB's were slow aside from KB. Overall they had more players with more experience than we didn and stacked up better than we did. And yes, I too think Gregg Williams is better than Shwartz. That's not the issue. They had better players than us. That's why we made FA moves this off season and that's why we had Ty Law in to work out twice and that's why we've made the cuts we have. Floyd and Fish both want better personel. With Pac getting better and Reynaldo (hopefully) getting better, we should be strong at CB and with Hope and Thorton we'll be a lot better at those positions.
 
Among all the D-discussion...I thought we we were very weak and had little depth at corner last year. Sure Hill and Pac were both in their rookie year. But it seems to me we have improved in some areas but not enough at corner....I'd like to hear some opinions on our CB position.
 
I think we need to bring in a vet CB for the minimum for backup experience. We are still rebuilding so let Hill and Jones show whether they are starter quality. If they are then we are set for a while. If they show that they aren't then we know that we need to use some of our cap dollars next offseason to go get a FA CB.
 
I think it is rather unfair.
Woolfolk got hit with multiple inuries.

I look at it like a KVB situation. If not here, then he will perform somewhere else.
 
smili said:
Not only do we lack talent at corner, but we also lack depth. After the starters - who are questionable imho - we have little.

Here's an article by Mark Howard summing up the situation
http://www.nashvillecitypaper.com/index.cfm?section_id=7&screen=news&news_id=49972

It sounds like Beckham still available as FA. Might make sense as much as anyone since he knows the system

Saw the article awhile back and emailed him.... Unlike Mr. Wyatt, who does respond and Mr. Kuharsky, whom also responds.... Mark Howard didn't. I just emailed him a third time (same email)... Maybe he is not the type to correspond back and forth with people who don't really matter in the big scheme of things (i.e. myself and anyone else on this board that isn't really press or some respected true authority by the general public on the subject matter - being The Titans or football even).
 
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