It's feasible that Brees only plays one year. Someone on Sirius was saying that if they didn't grant Brees the option for year two, he has a one year, $10M deal. I've said, don't think the Saints or Jets or even Dolphins won't draft a QB if they can.
theprizdfighter said:
He got 8 million in signingbonus. This year he has a 2 million salary, next year 3 million. Next year he's due his first option bonus, 12 million big ones.
That's a total of 25 million or nearly half of the contract for only 2 years.
He'll have to win the SuperBowl this year, if he wants to stay for more than one season. Otherwise they'll stick with Leinart.
Ewker said:
I agree, but i dont think it is set in stone if Reggie is there or Brick.
Titans don't need a RB right now so they skip on Reggie or trade down, Brick would be nice but they aren't know for taking OL in the 1st round so again skip or trade. If I was the Texans I would take Brick over Reggie. They have their QB for the future, their current RB isn't chopped liver but they do need OL to protect Carr. I suspect all 3 QB's may be there for us unless NO trades down
The biggest hole on our roster right now is at Offensive Tackle (left or right depending on what happens with Roos). Does anyone think we will really start the season with David Stewart at RT??
I'm all for drafting Leinart, but if we are filling holes Brick is the pick. We haven't even made a token effort to bring in a Tackle in free agency, so either Bell starts the season at RT or the Titans are seriously looking at drafting a Tackle early.
I'm all for drafting Leinart, but if we are filling holes Brick is the pick. We haven't even made a token effort to bring in a Tackle in free agency, so either Bell starts the season at RT or the Titans are seriously looking at drafting a Tackle early.
Jwill...
You need to do your homework on this. Chow modified the offense so mcnair wouldn't hold the ball for so long and take hits. It was by design we dump it off more. With better blocking and a better running game we won't have to do that as much.
You can't tell me that having a very young and thin WR corp had something to do with that. Especially since that was really the only area of the team that had a lot of injury.
How many teams got 65 receptions from rookie WR?
I thought your initial complaint was that mcnair didn't throw to young guys. Now you say he didn't throw to the WR as much. So which is it? 92 of those TE receptions went to a firast year player and a second year player. 65 of those 119 WR recepts went to rookies. ???
Drew bennett didn't come up with mcnair and he never had a problem throwing to him. I don't think your criticism has merit.
Why don't you look at the 2003 stats when WR caught almost 2/3 of the passes.
You need to do your homework on this. Chow modified the offense so mcnair wouldn't hold the ball for so long and take hits. It was by design we dump it off more. With better blocking and a better running game we won't have to do that as much.
You can't tell me that having a very young and thin WR corp had something to do with that. Especially since that was really the only area of the team that had a lot of injury.
How many teams got 65 receptions from rookie WR?
I thought your initial complaint was that mcnair didn't throw to young guys. Now you say he didn't throw to the WR as much. So which is it? 92 of those TE receptions went to a firast year player and a second year player. 65 of those 119 WR recepts went to rookies. ???
Drew bennett didn't come up with mcnair and he never had a problem throwing to him. I don't think your criticism has merit.
Why don't you look at the 2003 stats when WR caught almost 2/3 of the passes.
Roll, I just think McNair is regressing. He no longer has Wychek or Mason to dump passes off to, so now Kinney is our leading reciever because Steve has happy eyes and won't look to his recievers. My point is that Mac doesn't throw to anyone he hasn't played with for at least 5 years, except if you are a tight end and you are standing 8 yards away as a dump off.
Jwill1919 said:
McNair was in a new offense with no "true" #1 receiver. Bennett is a #2 and was injured, and we had "no go" Calico and some rookies.
Who the #$#@ is he gonna throw to? Of course his tight ends and RB's. He checked down this year alot b/c that was his best option.
I hope McNair doesn't make the same mistake Eddie made. Steve could have a very lucrative retirement career in Nashville with "spin-off" ops like restaurants, sporting good stores, appearances, etc. (probably not broadcasting). I hope he re-negotiates- he's got at least 2 more good seasons.
jwill...
Kinney was tied for second in receiving in 2005 with troupe, 55 catches each. Bennett led the team with 58 catches.
You are barking up the wrong tree with this distribution arguement. We had three different players with 50 catches and 8 with 21 or more.
Kinney was tied for second in receiving in 2005 with troupe, 55 catches each. Bennett led the team with 58 catches.
You are barking up the wrong tree with this distribution arguement. We had three different players with 50 catches and 8 with 21 or more.
Riverman...
Thank you.
Our 2 best WR(bennett and jones) missed 9 games between them and calico provided us with no help at all. We probably entered 10 games last year with the worst WR in the league.
Yet somehow mcnair is to blame and he didn't even play that bad. His passing rating was rather typical for him. 2003 was not a typical year and 2004 obviously was not either. Compare mcnair's passing numbers to what he did in 98, 99, 2000, 2001, 2002. It's the same. Was he old then?
2005 remined me a lot of 1998 when mcnair didn't have good WRs at all and wycheck had his best season. Wycheck and harris combined for 113 catches that year and the oilers didn't even have one WR who caught 40. Mcnair's passing rating then was 80 and i don't think anyone was arguing that he was past his prime. At least in 98 we had a more consistent running game.
Mcnair was actually outstanding in distributing the ball and using his receivers the best he could.
Thank you.
Our 2 best WR(bennett and jones) missed 9 games between them and calico provided us with no help at all. We probably entered 10 games last year with the worst WR in the league.
Yet somehow mcnair is to blame and he didn't even play that bad. His passing rating was rather typical for him. 2003 was not a typical year and 2004 obviously was not either. Compare mcnair's passing numbers to what he did in 98, 99, 2000, 2001, 2002. It's the same. Was he old then?
2005 remined me a lot of 1998 when mcnair didn't have good WRs at all and wycheck had his best season. Wycheck and harris combined for 113 catches that year and the oilers didn't even have one WR who caught 40. Mcnair's passing rating then was 80 and i don't think anyone was arguing that he was past his prime. At least in 98 we had a more consistent running game.
Mcnair was actually outstanding in distributing the ball and using his receivers the best he could.
Tide, I, like most people have a selective memory.
Do you remember even once asking yourself after watching a McNair incompletion, "what the hell was that?"...
I hope you are right but right now I'm wondering if McNair is really all there.
I hate being like that... two years is a long time...9-23...that's alot of losses. You were right about McNair going to the Pro Bowl... It's not like I think you are full of crap... seeing is believing... What have we really seen? Why must we draw inferences? Whatever happened to winning?
Think Tennessee at Cleveland...:sad2:
Do you remember even once asking yourself after watching a McNair incompletion, "what the hell was that?"...
I hope you are right but right now I'm wondering if McNair is really all there.
I hate being like that... two years is a long time...9-23...that's alot of losses. You were right about McNair going to the Pro Bowl... It's not like I think you are full of crap... seeing is believing... What have we really seen? Why must we draw inferences? Whatever happened to winning?
Think Tennessee at Cleveland...:sad2:
Where was Kenny (RollTide) when the Bench McNair threads were all around?
Gunny, did you know RollTide and Mr. E are the same person? :brow:
RollTide said:
Actually Roll, if you want to Bark, go ahead and do the math and you'll find that PASSES MCNAIR DISTRIBUTED go something like this:
Bennett - 53
Kinney - 50
Troupe - 41
Scaife - 33
CBrown - 25
Brandon Jones - 21
Roby - 17
Williams - 16
Calico - 16
Henry - 9
Fleming - 9
Payton - 2
So what this shows me is that we had only 2 recievers crack 20 receptions, but a combination of 4 TE/Rbs do it.:hmm:
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