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That's not entirely true. Rams could've offered Texans more for Watson (than what they did Lions and Stafford), and been declined by the Texans.

Yeah they could have... They also could have said screw that drama queen when we have Stafford available for trade.

 

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no I’m saying that the Rams would’ve offered more to get Watson if they felt he was worth more. They chose Stanford because they values him at the deal more than they or (presumably) other interested teams would. In short, Rams picking Stanford and not Watson could be considered Watsons market value.

What more do they have to offer? Another future 1st? At some point future 1sts 3 or 4 years out don’t have much value. Rams had no first to offer this year and Texans need a first this year.

 

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What more do they have to offer? Another future 1st? At some point future 1sts 3 or 4 years out don’t have much value. Rams had no first to offer this year and Texans need a first this year.

Miami about the boy team that fits but they don’t need Watson THAT bad. So not really a win now team that can afford Watson IMO. THats why I think unlikely to get as much as asking.

 

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What more do they have to offer? Another future 1st? At some point future 1sts 3 or 4 years out don’t have much value. Rams had no first to offer this year and Texans need a first this year.

Interesting to see in the NBA 1sts being dealed in trades 6+ years out.

 

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That's not entirely true. Rams could've offered Texans more for Watson (than what they did Lions and Stafford), and been declined by the Texans.

True- we don’t know. But we assume the market is doing what is does and setting price(s).

 

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The texans could not take the Goff cap hit, but Watson is a way better qb than Stafford and it is not even close. Had the rams gotten watson on this trade it was a homerun.

Getting 33 yr qb with some back injury history and giving up 2 firsts and a third is not. Yes Detroit has been a bad team but Stafford did have Mega-tron for many years. 0-3 in post season and he has blown as many games as come backs. He does lead the Detroit ( a very old and storied) franchise in career fumbles by a wide margin 68 and leads the franchise in career Int 144. And again he is number 7 all time in Nfl history in pick 6's with 23.

I just do not see him as a missing piece to a super bowl but maybe I am wrong. They better get it done in the next 2 years, the draft picks will catch up sooner rather than later.

 

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As stated before, in 2 years the lions are out of the Goff contract with no dead money. First round picks in 2022 and 2023 and this years 3rd round pick is crazy. For a 33 year old qb that has back issues and lets be honest has issues with turnovers ( how many pick 6's has he thrown in his career? 23 7th all time in NFL history!)

This means the Rams will have not had a first round pick in 7 straight years. And it all started with Jeff Fisher trading with us to get Goff in 2016!

Lions can cut Goff before March and not owe him anything in 2022.

 

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John McClain
@McClain_on_NFL
The Rams-Lions trade will have nothing to do with a Watson trade if the Texans do it. They'll want 2 ones, 2 twos and 2 young defensive starters, at the least. Watson, 25, under contract, great QB, team leader, beloved by fans, pillar of the community. Start with the Jets.
10:48 AM · Jan 31, 2021

 

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You always ask for more than you expect to get. This will be interesting to watch it play out. I won’t be as shocked as some to see them work it out and he stays. These situations are hard to predict and anything can happen. That said, Watson has made to quite challenging to keep him around.

 

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Lions can cut Goff before March and not owe him anything in 2022.

Wait, what?
Goff is a 43m dead cap hit in 2021 and 15.5m in 2022...

"Jared Goff Contract Breakdowns, Salary Cap Figures, Salaries, Bonuses | Spotrac" Jared Goff

 

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Wait, what?
Goff is a 43m dead cap hit in 2021 and 15.5m in 2022...

"Jared Goff Contract Breakdowns, Salary Cap Figures, Salaries, Bonuses | Spotrac" Jared Goff

Again he has to be cut by March this year or his 2022 salary hits the cap for the Lions. They gotta pay for 2021 regardless.

 

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What is the real purpose of dead cap? It’s so stupid. Teams should be allowed to cut or trade people whenever they want. If they cut a guy under contract, they still have to pay them unless someone else signs em. Boom. Would open up all kinds of fun shuffling.

 

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So in essence the Rams traded 4 firsts, 3 seconds and 2 third round picks for Stafford. Do I have that right?

I think it was 3 thirds but ya. On the bright side they also got a 4th and 5th from us I think lol

 

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How are you reading that? It’s two firsts and a second.

The trade with us for Goff + the Stanford trade.

 

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What is the real purpose of dead cap? It’s so stupid. Teams should be allowed to cut or trade people whenever they want. If they cut a guy under contract, they still have to pay them unless someone else signs em. Boom. Would open up all kinds of fun shuffling.

No, theyve already paid them.

Deadcap has to exist as long as teams are allowed to stretch out how they pay players their bonuses.

Say a team pays a player $40M signing bonus to sign on the spot. The NFL allows teams to stretch that 40M over the length of the contract. So if the player is cut before the final year then deadcap kicks in because that 40M is already out the door and has to be accounted somehow.

Its all an accounting thing