SUMMARY: The Tennessee Titans carried the lowest NFL payroll in 2005. According to figures gathered by USA Today, the Titans spent $61,332,658 last season. The reason is dead money under the salary cap and almost two dozen first or second year players on the roster. The Seahawks carried the NFL's highest payroll in 2005, with a figure of $100,604,116. Seattle ranked as one of eight teams with total payrolls over $90 million. According to USA Today figures, the Titans also ranked near the bottom in median salary among 32 NFL teams. The Titans' median salary in 2005 came in at $459,730.
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how the heck is washington so low?
I wonder where the Colts rank.
I wonder where the Colts rank.
Here's a link to a USA Today chart with all the teams 2005 salariies
http://asp.usatoday.com/sports/football/nfl/salaries/totalpayroll.aspx?year=2005
http://asp.usatoday.com/sports/football/nfl/salaries/totalpayroll.aspx?year=2005
That's actually a really interesting chart.
Look at the top ten teams on there. 5 made the playoffs, 2 had top ten picks.
Look at the bottom ten teams on there. 4 made the playoffs, on 2 had top ten picks.
If anything, I'd say that that chart says that salary cap hell does not play that big a role in the success of a football team.
Look at the top ten teams on there. 5 made the playoffs, 2 had top ten picks.
Look at the bottom ten teams on there. 4 made the playoffs, on 2 had top ten picks.
If anything, I'd say that that chart says that salary cap hell does not play that big a role in the success of a football team.
GoTitans3801 said:
Maybe not a single year, but I'll bet there is a trend if we were to plot out 2003, 2004, 2005.
If anyone can find those numbers, I'd love to see them.
It's not that I don't believe that the salary cap has effects on a team's ability to win, but those numbers really surprised me. I feel pretty good saying that there are other much bigger factors. There are teams every year who could change their record by three or four wins with minor adjustment, additude change, whatever. Some teams are in for a bad year, some teams are built for a good one, but I don't think it's as much about the salary cap as is promoted, and I think that chart is decent evidence at least.
It's not that I don't believe that the salary cap has effects on a team's ability to win, but those numbers really surprised me. I feel pretty good saying that there are other much bigger factors. There are teams every year who could change their record by three or four wins with minor adjustment, additude change, whatever. Some teams are in for a bad year, some teams are built for a good one, but I don't think it's as much about the salary cap as is promoted, and I think that chart is decent evidence at least.
but for a proffesional football team to have an average of 400,000 something dollars is horrible
The chart is basically meaningless. The more money paid up front in players contracts will reduce the amount paid in salary and visa versa. Thats why there are good and bad teams at both ends of the chart. All NFL teams basically pay out the same amount of money to players on average and use most of their CAP.
That's true, but doesn't that mean that the teams on the high end are the teams with the smallest amount of money invested in past bonuses? And the teams at the bottom are those with the most "dead money" from old players and paid bonuses for current players?
I don't really get it...can someone explain it...how are some of those teams that low on the list?
I think the "dead money" and excessive "signing bonuses" are where the Titans went wrong. We mortgaged the future for 2001-03. We're just now climbing out.
Teams like the Pats, Eagles, Steelers do an excellent job of mid-level player development. We couldn't afford to keep our better mid-level projects in the past 3 years and had to settle for rookies, 2nd years and cheap FA's.
I hope Reese and Co. don't put us back in a situation like that again.
Teams like the Pats, Eagles, Steelers do an excellent job of mid-level player development. We couldn't afford to keep our better mid-level projects in the past 3 years and had to settle for rookies, 2nd years and cheap FA's.
I hope Reese and Co. don't put us back in a situation like that again.
If a player does not WANT to be a Titan they should quite.
Guys like Nedney are the ones I can't figure out. Joe Nedney OWED the Titans another contract where he actually played the games he was contracted to play. Yes I am sure SF paid him more, and that is my point Nedney cashed every check the Titans wrote to him, but he had ZERO loyalty when he became a FA. Nedney is a clear example, McNair, George, Bishop, Fisk, ect... are other examples of Greed over Loyalty.
Squeelers and Patriots have players sign for less to stay there. Titans need to do a much better job of getting FOOTBALL players who want to be Titans instead of athletes who want to get paid by the Titans.
Guys like Nedney are the ones I can't figure out. Joe Nedney OWED the Titans another contract where he actually played the games he was contracted to play. Yes I am sure SF paid him more, and that is my point Nedney cashed every check the Titans wrote to him, but he had ZERO loyalty when he became a FA. Nedney is a clear example, McNair, George, Bishop, Fisk, ect... are other examples of Greed over Loyalty.
Squeelers and Patriots have players sign for less to stay there. Titans need to do a much better job of getting FOOTBALL players who want to be Titans instead of athletes who want to get paid by the Titans.
Starkiller? Am I off here? Isn't that what the numbers basically represent?
I think Starkiller has been in hibernation waiting for the start of training camp.
I've been in semi-hibernation since there's nothing really to talk about. Plus I was gone for 5 days for the 4th and then have been busy in making up for lost time.
The teams at the bottom are the ones with a bunch of dead money who didn't sign anyone to new contracts with big signing bonuses. The ones at the top are the ones who paid out big bonuses to new signees (or recent signees with option bonuses).
It's just the nature of the NFL salary cap that some teams will be way below in terms of real money spent that year and some will be way above.
The teams at the bottom are the ones with a bunch of dead money who didn't sign anyone to new contracts with big signing bonuses. The ones at the top are the ones who paid out big bonuses to new signees (or recent signees with option bonuses).
It's just the nature of the NFL salary cap that some teams will be way below in terms of real money spent that year and some will be way above.
Yes, the Titans cut him. It had nothing at all to do with Nedney's loyalty.Gunny said:
Don't let the fact that Nedney played about 1/2 game in 2 seasons get in the way of the Titans wanting Joe to take a pay cut to prove himself get in the way, which he should have done if he had any loyalty to the Titans for signing him long term, loyalty that was not there at all BTW. Titans "cut" Carter, Miller, Rolle, Mason, Holcombe at the same time. Those players were "cut" because they would not redo their contracts to remain a Titan.
Already stated why Nedney should have taken less to remain a Titan. Lets look at the other greed mongers. Carter cost the Titans a first round pick to acquire and although a solid player was not the outside force the Titans thought they were getting. At the end Carter was a DT playing DE at times. Carter spent the whole last season publically stating he wanted to retire as a Titan and then signed within days of being "cut". Carter should have shown Fisher and the Titans some loyality by redoing his contract for less to remain a Titan, like he had been stating all season.
Fred "Twitch" Miller should have taken less to remain a Titan, thankfully he was another greedmonger and signed with the Bears so that he could add Grossman to the list of QBs he has sent to the emergency room.
Rolle should have taken less to remain a Titan because he was no longer playing like an all-pro. He was, for some reason, reduced to grabbing WRs instead of covering them. He appeared to not give one rats chapped hind end his last season as a Titan. Be gone greedmonger.
Mason should have taken less to remain a Titan so that he could remain an effective number 1 WR in the NFL by staying teamed up with McNair. Of course he is now teamed up with Steve in murdermore new home of Greedmonger McNair.
Homcombe is the one guy on this list that I can understand not wanting to take less to remain a Titan. From the outside looking in he appeared to be a team player changing his playing weight to suite the coaches needs. He did sign with KC but I am not sure how much he got on the field for them.
Good riddance to every greedmonger as far as I am concerned.
Titans need to do a much better job of getting FOOTBALL players who want to be Titans instead of athletes who want to get paid by the Titans.
Already stated why Nedney should have taken less to remain a Titan. Lets look at the other greed mongers. Carter cost the Titans a first round pick to acquire and although a solid player was not the outside force the Titans thought they were getting. At the end Carter was a DT playing DE at times. Carter spent the whole last season publically stating he wanted to retire as a Titan and then signed within days of being "cut". Carter should have shown Fisher and the Titans some loyality by redoing his contract for less to remain a Titan, like he had been stating all season.
Fred "Twitch" Miller should have taken less to remain a Titan, thankfully he was another greedmonger and signed with the Bears so that he could add Grossman to the list of QBs he has sent to the emergency room.
Rolle should have taken less to remain a Titan because he was no longer playing like an all-pro. He was, for some reason, reduced to grabbing WRs instead of covering them. He appeared to not give one rats chapped hind end his last season as a Titan. Be gone greedmonger.
Mason should have taken less to remain a Titan so that he could remain an effective number 1 WR in the NFL by staying teamed up with McNair. Of course he is now teamed up with Steve in murdermore new home of Greedmonger McNair.
Homcombe is the one guy on this list that I can understand not wanting to take less to remain a Titan. From the outside looking in he appeared to be a team player changing his playing weight to suite the coaches needs. He did sign with KC but I am not sure how much he got on the field for them.
Good riddance to every greedmonger as far as I am concerned.
Titans need to do a much better job of getting FOOTBALL players who want to be Titans instead of athletes who want to get paid by the Titans.
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