But he still has to learn to manage an NFL offense. That takes time, no matter how good he's going to be.
I still say that a QB can learn more playing than they can sitting on the sidelines. The issue is do we have a player who can win more games this year. If we don't then play Young.
There is a real fallacy that McNair, being allowed to sit for 2 years before becoming the full time starter was worthwhile. In McNair's first full year as a starter he had a 70 QB rating and only completed 52% of his passes. He had as many ints as TDs. The next 3 years McNair's QB rating improved to around 80 but he never broke 60% on his completions during that time frame and as anyone knows our offense was very limited back then. His lifetime QB rating is only 83.
Considering Young is not coming from a small school and has played against much better competion in college I see no reason he couldn't do as well this year as the starter as McNair did in his 3rd year. By the way Mac ran 101 times that year for almost 700 yards and scored 8 TDs. Young's running stats could easily be comparible if not better IMO.
I would take a 70 QB rating season with 700 yards rushing by Young this year so he can be ready for 2007. IMO he could easily do better than that.
There is a real fallacy that McNair, being allowed to sit for 2 years before becoming the full time starter was worthwhile. In McNair's first full year as a starter he had a 70 QB rating and only completed 52% of his passes. He had as many ints as TDs. The next 3 years McNair's QB rating improved to around 80 but he never broke 60% on his completions during that time frame and as anyone knows our offense was very limited back then. His lifetime QB rating is only 83.
Considering Young is not coming from a small school and has played against much better competion in college I see no reason he couldn't do as well this year as the starter as McNair did in his 3rd year. By the way Mac ran 101 times that year for almost 700 yards and scored 8 TDs. Young's running stats could easily be comparible if not better IMO.
I would take a 70 QB rating season with 700 yards rushing by Young this year so he can be ready for 2007. IMO he could easily do better than that.
The Titans currently have 5 QBs on their roster. I don't know what their purpose was in signing the Texas Tech rookie as I don't know much about him. I speculate he is there to compete for a spot on the team during training camp and preseason. We already know that we will have Volek and Young. I don't know what will happen with Mauck, but maybe he is the reason they brought in the Texas Tech kid. Maybe they will let them battle for a 3rd spot or something. As for bringing in a veteran, I don't like the idea of a veteran coming in for 1-2 years as a starter and then retiring. However, if it helps them win games, I am all for it. I would like to see the whole Volek as starter, (a veteran) as 2nd, and Young as 3rd, but that makes me think about why the Titans would sign the new #11 Cody Hodges from Texas Tech. Maybe it's too early to tell what they are planning to do... Maybe they don't even know for sure. I am sure of one thing, in the back of Floyd Reese's mind, he knows that they will have to say goodbye to #9 unless something strange happens... Haven't got a clue as to what that would be...
I'm all for starting Young as a rookie if he's ready. I wouldn't want to do it from the start, but I'd be comfortable with it after he's had a few weeks to digest the offense.
ditto he will be ready in a few weeks, one because of his superb athleticism but hes not dumb, some of u might think so but he knew every play in the texas playbook and its a very thick bookStarkiller said:
I personally would like to see Young play maybe a few series in each game for starters. See how he handles it and go from there. I think there is value in letting him sit and watch before going out and trying to do it. Physically he is ready to start but he needs to learn how to be an NFL QB.
BTW anyone who thinks Cutler or Leinart are ready to start in the NFL now needs to remember what NFL legends like Bradshaw, Elway, Manning, and many many other did when they were thrown in as rookies. They all fell flat on their faces but they all got better. Only Marino was a success his rookie season, Montana became a success his second season. There is no telling what Vince can do but I don't look for him or any other rookie QB to be setting the world on fire.
BTW anyone who thinks Cutler or Leinart are ready to start in the NFL now needs to remember what NFL legends like Bradshaw, Elway, Manning, and many many other did when they were thrown in as rookies. They all fell flat on their faces but they all got better. Only Marino was a success his rookie season, Montana became a success his second season. There is no telling what Vince can do but I don't look for him or any other rookie QB to be setting the world on fire.
I'm sorry. I don't want to spunk on a good thread but I'm thinking Young and the playoffs.
RollTide said:
I don't know about anybody else but I think we need continuity. Changing the VET QB just isn't that. We need VY as the #2 THIS season (2006) and start at least 2 games. He needs to be ready to be the starter in 2007 with a capable vet BEHIND him in case of injury - not anything else.
Sukrillux said:
#11 Hodges didn't get drafted
1.(I would assume) because of the way he holds the ball...He holds the ball laces down (however he's quit accurate with it)...
2. and that there were choices in the draft that just fit the other teams better
3. and there were 3 good QBs already in the draft.
He wasn't half bad in college. He lead a good offense that racked up yardage. But the odds are against him...We need a vet not another rookie QB. But you never know...He might make it.
)I would leave the QB situation as it is currently, presuming Steve is gone. I also think the coaches and staff reaaally can't wait to see Vince play. They're going to say "we won't rush him" so much this offseason that you just know they can't wait to play him. The only way I think Vince manages to see no starting time this year is if 1)Steve is around and healthy or 2) Volek straight up tears it up, and stays healthy. Otherwise I'd expect to see Vince Young start midway, with a tough decision around the bye week.
Collins would be a mistake, IMO. Billy deserves the PT, and I think the hunger will make him perform well for as long as he can. I have no faith in Kerry Collins. I honestly see more advantage to bringing in Joey Harrington, please forgive me. You know Volek will likely be released after this season to look for a starting job elsewhere. Harrington would be allowed to play the following season if he can outperform Vince, then be relegated to a backup role the following year, where he might actually be decent.
Of the available FA QBs, Dilfer would have been my guy. Humble, team guy, no problem sharing his experience with younger guys and can manage a football game. I'm glad he gets a chance to go back to the west coast, though, which is what he wanted.
Right now, Volek is just as valuable as any FA QB out there. I would really rather spend the money on Ty Law over Kerry Collins, etc. -- make the D as stout as possible and matriculate the ball, control the clock. To this end, I'm really glad we added LenDale. Now if it's a QB who will play for the minimum, that might be different, so long as the D is complete first. But I still don't like messing with the roster, and this vet I would not bring in to play ahead of Billy. Only Steve would get that vote from me.
Collins would be a mistake, IMO. Billy deserves the PT, and I think the hunger will make him perform well for as long as he can. I have no faith in Kerry Collins. I honestly see more advantage to bringing in Joey Harrington, please forgive me. You know Volek will likely be released after this season to look for a starting job elsewhere. Harrington would be allowed to play the following season if he can outperform Vince, then be relegated to a backup role the following year, where he might actually be decent.
Of the available FA QBs, Dilfer would have been my guy. Humble, team guy, no problem sharing his experience with younger guys and can manage a football game. I'm glad he gets a chance to go back to the west coast, though, which is what he wanted.
Right now, Volek is just as valuable as any FA QB out there. I would really rather spend the money on Ty Law over Kerry Collins, etc. -- make the D as stout as possible and matriculate the ball, control the clock. To this end, I'm really glad we added LenDale. Now if it's a QB who will play for the minimum, that might be different, so long as the D is complete first. But I still don't like messing with the roster, and this vet I would not bring in to play ahead of Billy. Only Steve would get that vote from me.
Well, it will probably be week 3 after Volek gets hurt.
But in all seriousness, I'd bet he's starting by the time we play the Texans in Houston (December 10). You just know Bud would love to rub their noses in it, ot to mention stealing a large percentage of the home fans' crowd support.
But in all seriousness, I'd bet he's starting by the time we play the Texans in Houston (December 10). You just know Bud would love to rub their noses in it, ot to mention stealing a large percentage of the home fans' crowd support.
I think he will probably start, f he does, in the last game of the season, perahps give him a few snaps before that game.
Starkiller said:
exactly from Thanksgiving out, assuming Titan D is the Schwartz D instead of a good one, might as well play VY cause POs will be nearly impossible.
SEC 330 BIPOLAR said:
I agree...
the best chance for the Titans to win, would be to get McNair back....... baring that, Vince gives you a much better chance of winning than anyone out there.
Let's not forget, he's been working with Jim Rhome since January.... Old Oiler ties........ Titans insider?? Maybe.....
I think that the smart thing to do with Vince right off the bat would be to let him start the last 2 preseason games. Or maybe, let him start preseason games #2 and #3, since #4 is usually a dress rehearsal. That way, Vince can get adjusted to opposing starters without gambling in a regular season game. Of course, this would need to be done only if the coaching staff and Vince himself feel that he is ready to do so. Everyone's still talking about Dilfer being a free agent... He is a Cleveland Brown. That's not going to change unless the Browns release him. He doesn't want to be released or traded. Trent killed that rumor himself on NFL Network. I agree with Glinks about the QB situation. If the coaching staff sees something great in VY early on, we should just ride with our current QB line-up. #1Volek #2Young #3Hodges or Mauck... However, if it looks as if Vince is not adjusting as smoothly as everyone anticipated, we should sign a vet. The Titans need to strengthen their secondary as a first priority. The secondary was the weakest part of the defense last season. We did some good getting Hope and I am thinking that he might cover Tank's old spot, correct? However, we need another good corner and I'm thinking another OLB. Good defenses win games. Let's get the distraction from the McNair situation out of the way and focus on the D.
Hodges
#10 Cody Hodges | QB
Full Name: Cody Hodges
Born: November 20, 1982
Birth Place: Amarillo, TX
Height: 6-2
Weight: 210 lbs. Age: 23
Pos: QB
Class: Senior
RAT 102.3 | YDS 4,042 | TD 30
Profile Stats Game Log
Stat Overview Passing
YEAR CMP ATT YDS CMP% YPA LNG TD INT SACK RAT
2002 1 2 10 50.0 5.00 10 0 1 0 -8.00
2003 1 1 6 100.0 6.00 6 0 0 0 150.40
2004 5 9 54 55.6 6.00 30 2 0 0 179.29
2005 353 531 4238 66.5 7.98 67 31 12 34 148.26
11 Hodges didn't get drafted
1.(I would assume) because of the way he holds the ball...He holds the ball laces down (however he's quit accurate with it)...
2. and that there were choices in the draft that just fit the other teams better
3. and there were 3 good QBs already in the draft.
4. He had a ton of INTs
We need a vet not another rookie QB. But you never know...He might make it.
Gunny said:
#10 Cody Hodges | QB
Full Name: Cody Hodges
Born: November 20, 1982
Birth Place: Amarillo, TX
Height: 6-2
Weight: 210 lbs. Age: 23
Pos: QB
Class: Senior
RAT 102.3 | YDS 4,042 | TD 30
Profile Stats Game Log
Stat Overview Passing
YEAR CMP ATT YDS CMP% YPA LNG TD INT SACK RAT
2002 1 2 10 50.0 5.00 10 0 1 0 -8.00
2003 1 1 6 100.0 6.00 6 0 0 0 150.40
2004 5 9 54 55.6 6.00 30 2 0 0 179.29
2005 353 531 4238 66.5 7.98 67 31 12 34 148.26
11 Hodges didn't get drafted
1.(I would assume) because of the way he holds the ball...He holds the ball laces down (however he's quit accurate with it)...
2. and that there were choices in the draft that just fit the other teams better
3. and there were 3 good QBs already in the draft.
4. He had a ton of INTs
We need a vet not another rookie QB. But you never know...He might make it.
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