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Vince's final stats :

Passing
30-40 / 267 yards

Rushing
20att - 200 yards - 3 TD's
467 yards of total offense - a new Rose Bowl Record
not bad, not bad at all

c'mon to #3 baby
 
If Vince declares and he's available and we don't draft him...I'll disown this team.....

This guy is all heart just like Steve and Steve is his hero so how perfect would that be for him to mentor to him.

He's the real deal and he's gonna be one of the best.......

With the 3rd pick in the draft...the Tennessee Titans select QB Vince Young from Texas......

Make it happen BABY!!! HOOKEM!!
 
Draft that guy!!!!

What an awesome player. I have never seen a guy single handedly take a team on his back like that. The guy is an absolutely awesome runner who runs through tackles with ease, makes people miss and has 4.4 speed. He has a strong accurate arm. Maybe not a brett farve arm but good enough to get the job done. Exellent accuracy on almost every throw and few mistakes in reading coverage. Draft that guy! Likely now that he will come out after winning the championship.

What is most amazing is that this guy has so much poise and leadership ability. He stands up to a big time rush like it is nothing to him and he can easily dispatch potential tacklers to make a play. 200 yards rushing and almost 300 yards passing. What more could you ask for in a big game. No turnovers! His passing rating using the nfl formula was 92.3 despite not completing a TD pass.

Draft that guy!
 
What would staying possibly do for him other than earn him an overrated trophy(heisman). When he could benefit from a year under Chow and Mcnair, and gain a better understanding of the Titan playbook.
 
Kami....ot

It's miles davis "kind of blue" not some kind of blue. Great CD but i actually listen to milestones more. What a sextet with miles, coltrane on tenor and cannonball adderly on alto. Hard to beat.

My favorite jazz musicians.

Blue mitchell, cannonball adderly, jimmy heath, joe henderson, booker ervin and of course miles and trane.
 
RollTide said:
It's miles davis "kind of blue" not some kind of blue. Great CD but i actually listen to milestones more. What a sextet with miles, coltrane on tenor and cannonball adderly on alto. Hard to beat.

My favorite jazz musicians.

Blue mitchell, cannonball adderly, jimmy heath, joe henderson, booker ervin and of course miles and trane.
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Thanks for the correction. Miles is only second to Coltrane (hell, not even 2nd, I can't rank such musicians) as my all-time favorite musicians.
 
young vs vick...

The obvious problem with vick is that he has not improved at all with age. In fact he has actually regressed. Last year people attributed vick's struggles to a new system. This year he was less effective throwing the ball.

In 2002 vick's first full season as a starter he had a passing rating of 82 and had twice as many TDs as ints. He also ran for almost 800 yards. The passing numbers were not top notch but average enough especially with the TD-int ratio to get the job done and he was such a dominant runner he was very effective over all, got his team into the playoffs and won a game there. Well since then he has failed to match even those modest numbers and 800 yards a season running is not something even he can accomplish every year.

I see young as a more effective passer who can give you an 80+ rating every year and not throw a lot of ints. As a runner he is comparable to vick though he is more like a young mcnair with his size and strength. Look at a young mcnair from 98-2000 and you see what this guy will be. At least! Whether he could ever have the kind of year passing that steve had in 2003 is doubtful but for 7-8 years he could be a very effective player with his variety of talents.

I also think young would benefit more from coming out now and spending a year with the clip board then running rings around big 12 defenses again. Give him one full season, two camps-pre-seasons and he could be ready to go.
 
Troupe4Prez said:
What would staying possibly do for him other than earn him an overrated trophy(heisman). When he could benefit from a year under Chow and Mcnair, and gain a better understanding of the Titan playbook.
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yeah, i've been thinking and saying all day

if Texas wins the Rose Bowl, Vince will come out

lets just hope Steve drops some advice for him

maybe he'll pull an Eli / Elway and refuse to play for New Orleans

nah,.... I still think the Saints go for Leinart .. he got a Heismann :ha:
 
RollTide said:
The obvious problem with vick is that he has not improved at all with age. In fact he has actually regressed. Last year people attributed vick's struggles to a new system. This year he was less effective throwing the ball.

In 2002 vick's first full season as a starter he had a passing rating of 82 and had twice as many TDs as ints. He also ran for almost 800 yards. The passing numbers were not top notch but average enough especially with the TD-int ratio to get the job done and he was such a dominant runner he was very effective over all, got his team into the playoffs and won a game there. Well since then he has failed to match even those modest numbers and 800 yards a season running is not something even he can accomplish every year.

I see young as a more effective passer who can give you an 80+ rating every year and not throw a lot of ints. As a runner he is comparable to vick though he is more like a young mcnair with his size and strength. Look at a young mcnair from 98-2000 and you see what this guy will be. At least! Whether he could ever have the kind of year passing that steve had in 2003 is doubtful but for 7-8 years he could be a very effective player with his variety of talents.

I also think young would benefit more from coming out now and spending a year with the clip board then running rings around big 12 defenses again. Give him one full season, two camps-pre-seasons and he could be ready to go.
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yep
yep
and yep
 
Hopefully we aren't getting ourselves hyped up for nothing, needless to say if we are going to get a franchise QB it has to be in this draft. Young hopefully and if not Cutler.
 
Young is no NFL QB. Is he exciting to watch run the ball ? yes, but he's no QB. He stays in the shotgun the entire game, every play. When he does throw it... its to the flat, and he puts up mis-leading stats in a " Zone step " offense. I can't believe fans are considering him as our first pick with the idea he could be a NFL QB. He would have little to no success at that level.
 
Him being in the shot gun every play... is a indicator that he can not process defense(s) quickly and needs the extra time. Tonight it looked like they ran the same play.. over and over again. I felt like I was watching some guy on xbox playing NFL live that keeps running the same play or Nebraska running the option in the early 90's.
 
RollTide said:
I also think young would benefit more from coming out now and spending a year with the clip board then running rings around big 12 defenses again. Give him one full season, two camps-pre-seasons and he could be ready to go.
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Great point. Nothing left to prove in the NCAA and the Big 12 conference. I think that winning the BCS championship sealed his fate to announce that he will declare for the 2006 draft.
 
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