Said perfectly, I have nothing to add!
I agree, but that is a statement I have shied away from because I didnt want any of the backlash from saying it...
I would rather have McMVP at QB than T17 but yeah as far as a passer goes T17 clearly better than McMVP
It's sad howso many fans are ok with just getting by.
Yes T17 wins alot and is solid but I already seen to many playoffs games to know he is not the guy.
I don't want my QB to have mental breakdowns after playoff games.I have a higher bar.
Guys like Tanehill and Cousins are posion they are not awful so you have to resign them and you end up in the middle of the NFL for years.
Yes T17 wins alot and is solid but I already seen to many playoffs games to know he is not the guy.
I don't want my QB to have mental breakdowns after playoff games.I have a higher bar.
Guys like Tanehill and Cousins are posion they are not awful so you have to resign them and you end up in the middle of the NFL for years.
You say he is not the guy, and that might very well be the case, but I have yet to see any of the "not the guy" people give even one realistic option in any way for a qb better than Ryan.
You can be the first... who should we bring in today to replace Tannehill?
Burn it all down if you have to
You have to atleast try to find someone is either that or another first round exit from the playoffs which is sadly is going to be the out come yet again if he stays healthy.
I know it sounds insane saying let go of a regular season winner and playoff QB but I want a Superbowl and Tanny is not going to make it even with a top 5 defense.
Just so I know your bar,
Who are “the guys” across the NFL RIGHT NOW?
we drafted qbs in the past 2 drafts.
Not sure of how many QB's today would meet that criteria, Last time I checked Football is a Team Sport. Where unless you have a top Generational talent the actual impact is marginal (Player to Player). Going after QB's to be that guy is like winning the lotto. Odds are Poor.
Levis will not be the guy. One read QB. If it isn't open, he will take a sack.
If that’s his only issue that can be fixed. Will it ? I don’t know. But just to dismiss him this early wrong.
Levis hasn’t played in a regular NFL game yet. Give him a chance to develop. Too early for the eye test. Damn- tough crowd.
ok...........
He didn't change after being coached by nfl coaches at Kentucky. I watched it. Plus, how many sacks did he take in his one appearance? 4?
tannehill is mid and gets us nowhere
thems the facts
if you think he's the best titans qb ever that is more of a testament to how absolutely awful this franchise is at finding a real qb
levis probably wont work out. neither will the next guy most likely. doesn't mean im content just being 1 and done in the playoffs every year. clearly many of you in here are though.
thems the facts
if you think he's the best titans qb ever that is more of a testament to how absolutely awful this franchise is at finding a real qb
levis probably wont work out. neither will the next guy most likely. doesn't mean im content just being 1 and done in the playoffs every year. clearly many of you in here are though.
Current NFL QBs to make it “somewhere” (must be SB if conference championship is nowhere)
Mahomes
Hurts
Burrow
Stafford
Garappolo
Goff
Foles
Russ Wilson
A-a-Ron Rodgers
Make it nowhere consistently then would be nice lol
Some people just don’t want to understand how much more is needed in the game than QB.
titans are never and have never been a QB first team (maybe back in the Oilers day with Moon)
so to expect any kind of production or dominance like a Mahomes is not realistic and never has been.
the guys like who I quoted need to move on to another team or accept that this is what the titans are and maybe, just maybe, look at the statistical analysis of everything to see the titans have been extremely competitive even among the pass happy league, QB is not THE issue, it may be 1, but far from the biggest (OL).
Oh good, somebody else posted a list so I didn't have to. Here's what I see in that list above, QBs who either won or got to a SB still on their rookie contracts, in bold. This is why I believe teams that chase QBs in the draft year after year don't win Super Bowls. I want the QB to be the final piece in the puzzle, NOT the first. That mentality is old think now. I want a decent OL squad, a decent WR squad, defense, etc, already in place when I get a QB.
This article does a good job breaking it down;
There’s an urgency to win in NFL while QB is on rookie contract. Here’s why
Pat Mahomes won a SB in his third year, still in rookie contract. He's also the outlier to my argument given that he's continued to win even after being awarded the large contract. But I think that's a testament to just how good of a talent he is. Even still though, the Chiefs team was very much in place by the time Mahomes was drafted - and because they didn't have a lot of needs at the time, they positioned themselves to move up in the draft to take their QB.
from the article;
Russell Wilson took the Seattle Seahawks to a Super Bowl championship in his second year. Like the Chiefs, they returned to the Super Bowl a year later and lost. With Wilson entering the final year of his four-year, $3 million rookie contract, the Seahawks gave him a four-year contract for $87.6 million in the off-season. They haven’t returned to the Super Bowl since then.
Ben Roethlisberger took the Pittsburgh Steelers to the Super Bowl and a victory in his second year in the league while still playing on his rookie contract of four years and $22 million. The Steelers gave him a big extension — six years, $88 million. He took the team to two more Super Bowl appearances, the last time in 2011 (a loss), and he played out the last 11 years of his career without a return to the big game.
Eli Manning took the New York Giants to the Super Bowl and a victory in his fourth season (2007) when he was still on his rookie contract. He was awarded a huge contract extension — six years, $97.5 million. He made one more Super Bowl (four years later) and played the last 10 years of his career without another appearance.
Jared Goff took the L.A. Rams to the Super Bowl in his third season
Now there’s Burrow showing up in the Super Bowl in his second season still working on his rookie contract, a bargain-basement four-year, $36 million deal.
Rich quarterback contracts might explain why Aaron Rodgers and Brett Favre won only one Super Bowl each, or why Dan Marino appeared in the Super Bowl his second season and never again.
All of this puts pressure on teams to win with young quarterbacks. The New York Jets have never been able to make this happen even though they have chosen six quarterbacks in the first two rounds of the last 16 drafts. They used the second overall pick of the 2021 draft to choose BYU’s Zach Wilson and agreed to a contract with a cheap cap hit of about $8 million. They won only four games. If Wilson doesn’t play well the next few years, the Jets of course won’t have to pay him a huge contract, but they won’t be any closer to winning, either.
Look around the league at what percentage of a team’s salaries were devoted to the quarterback position in 2021: The Packers and Falcons — about 24%; the Vikings 22%; the Texans almost 20%; the Titans almost 19%; the Cowboys, Chiefs, Seahawks all in the 17% range. The two Super Bowl teams — Rams and Bengals — were 11% and 4%, respectively.
So if I'm reading this right, Tannehill just this year will earn a base salary of $27 million and cap hit of $36 million, which is exactly what I don't want; a mediocre QB making a ton of money. The Cowboys wouldn't do it obviously, but in a perfect world I would have traded INTannehill (love that btw) for Cooper Rush, then signed him to a $15 million deal. He'd be my stop gap QB while I built up the team around him, then just as a the Chiefs shipped off Alex Smith, I'd send him packing while I traded up to grab my rookie QB and start the rookie contract stopwatch.
(Tannehills #s btw came from this source)
Ryan Tannehill.
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