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I heard Eric Bieniemy has met with 5 teams already

With permission since the Chiefs had a bye.

 

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C’mon. He can’t even be contacted until the season is over. Want to get a HC job? You win in the playoffs.

That’s not true at all. If teams wanted to see him win this game they would have waited for the results before requesting to interview him.

He’s been requested from every single team that has an opening. You don’t think he’s preparing for those?? Biggest job opportunity of his life.

 

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The thing is, as I wrote earlier in this thread, running too much on first down has been a problem for the Titans for a lot of the season. It's been a trend since Vrabel took over as head coach. In the three years Vrabel has been head coach, the Titans have run the ball on first down more than Mularkey did during his tenure and we all thought he ran the ball too much.

The Ravens today were successful in stopping Henry on first down all game. That made the second and third down conversions more difficult as they became obvious passing down. Getting a 10-0 lead actually didn't help because the offense went into conservative mode, exasperating the problem.

The strength of the Titans offense all season has been to get chunks of yards running on first down and then setting up PA strikes down the field. The Titans do not have the OL to be a traditional drop back passing offense. Once the Titans were forced to have to drop back and throw (due to their overly conservative game plan and the Ravens defense), the game was basically over. This team can't flip a switch with no threat of running game.

This game should solidify in everyone's minds just how important Henry really is to the offense. If Henry has a rough game, Tannenhill isn't going to overcome it most of the time.

Yep agreed on all fronts except idk why Vrabel is being blamed for 1st down runs. He controls no part of the offense (except going for 2 and 4th down conversions).

 

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Yep agreed on all fronts except idk why Vrabel is being blamed for 1st down runs. He controls no part of the offense (except going for 2 and 4th down conversions).

I think Vrabel has more input on the offense than just that.

It's also been a recurrent theme in his three years as HC, the Titans run a ton on first down. When LaFluer was OC, the Titans ran a ton on first down as well. Heck, even the announcers mentioned that one of Vrabel's goals for the game was for Henry to get 30 carries. Despite what some people here think, Vrabel wants the offense to run through the ground game and for the passing game to feed off of that.

 

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I think Vrabel has more input on the offense than just that.

It's also been a recurrent theme in his three years as HC, the Titans run a ton on first down. When LaFluer was OC, the Titans ran a ton on first down as well. Heck, even the announcers mentioned that one of Vrabel's goals for the game was for Henry to get 30 carries. Despite what some people here think, Vrabel wants the offense to run through the ground game and for the passing game to feed off of that.

Disagree. LaFluer came from an offense that ran to setup the pass. I don’t think Vrabel is the one pushing for 1st down runs. I think the OC’s we’ve had have tried to do that to setup PA.

Sometimes it works. Sometimes it doesn’t. But to not be able to adjust is the most concerning thing to me. We have to be able to adapt to what defenses are throwing at us.

Baltimore has a solid defense. Cant underestimate that but today was a pitiful effort all the way around.

 

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Disagree. LaFluer came from an offense that ran to setup the pass. I don’t think Vrabel is the one pushing for 1st down runs. I think the OC’s we’ve had have tried to do that to setup PA.

Sometimes it works. Sometimes it doesn’t. But to not be able to adjust is the most concerning thing to me. We have to be able to adapt to what defenses are throwing at us.

Baltimore has a solid defense. Cant underestimate that but today was a pitiful effort all the way around.

I agree, the lack of adjustments were alarming, especially given it was a playoff game. Unfortunately, lack of adjustments were a theme throughout this season and prevalent on both sides of the ball. Have to remember, Arthur Smith is only a second year OC and Vrabel is only a third year HC whose previous DC experience was a disaster. Maybe that was a factor in the lack of adjustments, but it also reeks of stubbornness.

All around, who would have thought the defense would actually play average, giving the offense a chance to win? Of course, this is the game where the offense scores its lowest point total of the season. Fitting end to the season if I do say so myself.

 

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Ravens knew BDH was getting the ball to set up anything else. On occasion, I think other offensive weapons need used to help out Henry. Today, would have like to see THill keep the ball on some more rollouts or options to Henry, he's got legs also.
Not sure why, but the Titans have to be one of the worst screen teams in the league. Pressure was on THill most of the game and it didn't really seem like any play calls were made to even attempt countering the consistent pressure. Either draw plays or screens should be occasionally thrown in there. Even if not successful, it hopefully keeps the D thinking about it to make some room in the middle or slow the pass rush a little.

 

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That’s not true at all. If teams wanted to see him win this game they would have waited for the results before requesting to interview him.

He’s been requested from every single team that has an opening. You don’t think he’s preparing for those?? Biggest job opportunity of his life.

So he’s preparing for job interviews instead of how to beat the Ravens last week? Riiiiiight.

 

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So he’s preparing for job interviews instead of how to beat the Ravens last week? Riiiiiight.

Lol, his best job interview was yesterday! Smh

 

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So he’s preparing for job interviews instead of how to beat the Ravens last week? Riiiiiight.

No I said he spent too much time preparing for interviews. Which is why the game plan was vanilla.

 

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Maybe I'm missing it, but it seems Tennessee gets poached for more Coordinators than some of the other teams that I would think should be high on the lists as well.
GB - OC (I know Rodgers does it but just like Manning's former OC's getting snagged)
Pit - DC
Chi - DC
NO - OC
TB - OC

Kind of like when Lefleur got snagged, seemed like he shouldn't have been the "top" guy based on how our offense was doing.

 

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The thing is, as I wrote earlier in this thread, running too much on first down has been a problem for the Titans for a lot of the season. It's been a trend since Vrabel took over as head coach. In the three years Vrabel has been head coach, the Titans have run the ball on first down more than Mularkey did during his tenure and we all thought he ran the ball too much.

The Ravens today were successful in stopping Henry on first down all game. That made the second and third down conversions more difficult as they became obvious passing down. Getting a 10-0 lead actually didn't help because the offense went into conservative mode, exasperating the problem.

The strength of the Titans offense all season has been to get chunks of yards running on first down and then setting up PA strikes down the field. The Titans do not have the OL to be a traditional drop back passing offense. Once the Titans were forced to have to drop back and throw (due to their overly conservative game plan and the Ravens defense), the game was basically over. This team can't flip a switch with no threat of running game.

This game should solidify in everyone's minds just how important Henry really is to the offense. If Henry has a rough game, Tannenhill isn't going to overcome it most of the time.

It also solidifies how important a dominant O-Line is. Ours is middle of the pack and when it’s playoff time, that shows up and hurts offensive productivity.