you mean because of the suspension for smoking drugs? :ha:
I'm sorry, I just think pairing those two words is hilarious.
I'm sorry, I just think pairing those two words is hilarious.
TitanJeff said:
Thats the whole point Jeff. Brown wants to prove himself on the field and there is less of a chance he can get 300 carries with a crowded backfield. Saying Brown is worried about having to "work" to get carries is ridiculous. The guy put on 10 pounds of muscle in the off season and has worked his butt off from day one. He will work as hard if he is on a team with no RB competition or not. What he wants is to get into a situation where he can prove himself by being the man and he has nothing to lose if someone wants to give him that chance and the money now. Fisher is going to play Henry and White enough, even if Brown is playing well to take carries away. The Titans are going to want to evaluate all three this year for the future. Can White be the next Eddie? Is Henry a guy who can make Brown expendable? Is Brown worthy of a big contract? I see no way Fisher declares Brown the man, hands him the ball and tells Henry and White to take a seat even if Brown is playing well. Actually if Brown wasn't confident he could stay healthy he would accept the fewer carries and hope to make the most of the carries he got. Brown wants to show he can be a #1 probowl level back. You know as well as I that you don't draft a player in the firstt couple of rounds in the draft and not expect them to contribute right away, especially a RB.
I say let him play out his current contract. This should give him incentive to play hard and stay healthy. Beside then we know what we have in White, and besides, if he leaves via FA we get a draft pick anyway. The only way i SEE WE TRADE HIM IS WE GET A 2ND ROUNDER FOR HIM, AND IT NEEDS TO BE A PROBABLY HIGH 2ND....
At the start of the season Fisher will get Brown and Henry carries and may put White in the mix depending on how he performs in camp. If Brown steps up and he becomes a franchise back he will get most of the carries every game if he doesnt he wont. Fisher wants to win and if Brown gives us the best chance to do that he will get plenty of carries it would not make since for Brown not to be the featured back if he performs to that level.
What are the odds we even do trade him, from the team itself's perspective theres not way they actually see a logical reason to trade him, hes out starting running back and the best we have now....unless a team offers us something thats irresistable then i see no way we trade him...
TitanJeff said:
851 yards on 224 attempts for a decent 3.8 avg. and 4 fumbles. Add to that 327 yards receiving on 25 catches for a 13.1 avg. and a combined 7 touchdowns. To me that's pretty good and considering who he had blocking for him it's even better.
TitanJeff said:
By trading for a marque RB in Henry and drafting a high profile RB in White you're not exactly saying "Hey, Brown is our guy for the future", you're not even saying "We believe Brown can turn the corner next season or the season after", you're basically saying "Play like a probowler or get the hell out".
I think some people tend to forget Brown is only 1 year removed from his "rookie" season as a fulltime starter. In hindsight letting him sit behind George the first year was probably a big mistake.
Still Brown has big play ability that few runningbacks have and for that alone I'd keep him around (having played with and against the only player with sub 4.4 speed in our own national league, I know what a pain/pleasure such guys are).
You'd "keep him around". Yeah, we would too... We're planning on it, that's why he's under contract for us and #1 on our depth chart.
Letting him sit didn't hurt the guy, heck, it probably kept him from getting injured again.
Brown is getting his chances, you can't blame an NFL team for getting some insurance.
Letting him sit didn't hurt the guy, heck, it probably kept him from getting injured again.
Brown is getting his chances, you can't blame an NFL team for getting some insurance.
you would think that, wouldnt you? but he didnt. he missed the first four games that year because of a hamstring.GoTitans3801 said:
funny thing is...
we havent heard henry say one thing this offseason, i can almost bet he's in the best shape of his life and is hungry to go into camp and prove his worth, lets not forget his days in buffalo where he was a VERY good back for them...pro bowl atleast once...
we havent heard henry say one thing this offseason, i can almost bet he's in the best shape of his life and is hungry to go into camp and prove his worth, lets not forget his days in buffalo where he was a VERY good back for them...pro bowl atleast once...
Prove what? That he can stay on the field? He'd easy had 300 carries if he didn't go down so often last season. Look at his numbers the last two seasons. Don't you think he'd been given 300 carries if he'd been on the field? He hasn't even cracked 225 so far in his career.Soxcat said:
Like most RBs in the league, Brown will probably always share carries. But since he's the #1 now, he'll play as long (and as much) as he is effective and can stay healthy.
He's the man NOW. It's his job to lose. It's not like he's #2 or #3 on the depth chart. What does he have to prove? He's the teams best option and will remain so if he is effective. If he goes somewhere else, that's where he'd have to prove himself.
Based on what? Fisher said last year he'll go with the back who is hot. If Brown is effective, he'll get the carries. If not, he doesn't deserve to be on the field. And we'll see Henry or White. May the best back win.
You're saying Fisher will pull Brown in the middle of a close game where he's ripping apart the defense just to get a look at Henry or White? Both of those guys will get their work when Brown needs a blow or mop up time.
Yet he already has done that. Everything I've read has said Brown is the #1.
If Henry or White is more effective than Brown, then they should get the work. But it looks to me that Brown rules his own destiny. If he can stay healthy and effective, he'll stay on the field and rack up the numbers. By asking for a trade, it looks to me that Brown is a bit concerned he'll be able to handle the competition.
he's a bit concerned because he saw how lendale looked towards the end of mini-camp....
ahhh just stay in tennessee chris! No reason to even let him go at all....henry is passed his days and White needs more time to develope and hasn't played an NFL game yet.
Yet this "pretty good" back thinks he's deserving of a big contract without making more than 225 carries in any given season throughout his career because of injury issues.Vigsted said:
Henry was brought in because the Titans couldn't count on Brown staying on the field. They still can't.
Brown wants feature back money and won't get it from the Titans or anyone else until he proves he can stay on the field. But he totally controls his own destiny as far as his next contract is concerned as long as he is effective and stays healthy. He'll get the big payday whether it is with the Titans or another team. Until then, he is a better than average RB who doesn't have any leverage to get a new contract and just needs to prove his value on the field.
i wouldn't say henry is past his days...
in the 2 years before buffalo brought in mcgahee, henry put up 1438 yards 13 TD's and 1356 yards 10 TD's
he just needs the chance to get the carries again, he can be very good...
in the 2 years before buffalo brought in mcgahee, henry put up 1438 yards 13 TD's and 1356 yards 10 TD's
he just needs the chance to get the carries again, he can be very good...
TitanJeff said:Out of the gate? No way. If Brown and Henry are behind White in the depth chart when the Jets come to town, I'll rename this site "goPuck".
If White makes the most of his opportunities, I can see him getting more of them. But I don't see him passing Brown on the depth chart in '06.
I'm taking into consideration that Brown is gone by then
Soxcat said:
VInce Young and LenDale White start Week 8 @ HOME vs. Houston ! BABY !
coming off the bye - against possibly our easiest opponent
Immediately after the BYE
seems like a good time to pull the trigger
Vigsted said:
Chris has never been a power runner. Maybe his new 10 lbs will help him (and may slow him down). But I don't see how anyone can watch him and say he runs with authority. That and his health issues are pretty major problems.....oh and fumbling a little too often.
Brown has not proven to be an elite back. I think he can be above average with better blocking. But if he wants to be paid like a proven #1, then I hope Floyd can get a sweet trade worked out.
Hey I like the guy, but we shouldn't treat him like he's a superstar.
TitanJeff said:
How do you know? I haven't heard anything about what he's asking for, please enlighten me. I don't think it's a question of money, I think it's a question of job security. As a running back I would not want to go out and risk my health without knowing if I have a job after the season is over.
TitanJeff said:
Of course not, but if you're the coach and he hits a couple of 1, 2, -1 yard runs (as all RB's do) and you have Henry and White on the bench, could resist spelling him? In the end that means less carries, less yards and worse avg. for Brown.
Bobo said:
You don't need to be Jerome Bettis or Jamal Lewis to run with authority. Brown isn't afraid to go up the middle and he doesn't shy away from tacklers, if that's not running with authority I don't know what is.
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