As evidenced by what though?
I think the metrics for success people are using are wild. I think a ton of people have failed to grasp what "flatten the curve" actually implies.
Every state flattened the curve, with the arguable exception of NY. So what are we even talking about with the beaches thing?
Docking Florida points because some college kids got the virus in March instead of August is crazy to me IMO.
Everybody does realize that ALL virus outbreaks will have a “flattened curve” whether isolation measures were implemented or not- right? Been happening since the beginning of mankind.
Yes. But a nation that actually tries to fight the virus will flatten the curve at a faster, controlled rate.
Yes, all curves involving sickness will flatten... when everyone eventually dies.
Such a flawed statement.
Be nice to actually flatten the curve, for starters.
just no.
first, not everybody dies who is infected.
Second, this isn’t the first virus to ever challenge man. And our species continues to survive without mass isolation.
Third, we rely on technology to immunize the masses and save those that would succumb if they were exposed without immunity. We are “buying time” with isolation measures to save the higher risk populations who do not (for whatever reason) utilize isolation measures themselves.
Fourth, research the difference between incidence and prevalence in regards to epidemiology. It will give you a more clear understanding of how much spin is occurring in the “statistics” that are being thrown around.
fifth, nobody ever suggested not “fighting” the virus.
My biggest point in this is that these isolation measures have restricted constitutional rights of nearly everyone to debatably save a smaller at risk segment. And that is objectionable to me because if those at risk people utilize isolation measures, they’d be protected. Those that can’t comply should be taken care of by their family or support network, NOT the govt.
Project Veritas Uncovered an Important Coronavirus Story and Twitter Is Actively Suppressing It
Like we didn't already know the numbers are padded, but interesting Twitter would react this way.
Like we didn't already know the numbers are padded, but interesting Twitter would react this way.
Though I understand government reaction is a big factor for this topic, do remember that anything political is not allowed in this forum. Posts will be deleted and the poster banned from the thread for a week.
Christ, it’s actually working. We are normalizing mass death for the service economy.
By the end of May we could be looking at the death equivalent of a 9/11 every single day but we just have to let it play out because if wine moms and boat dads can’t go eat a fried onion at Texas Road House every Friday night the economy is going to collapse.
“Muh rights!”
What about the right to not have to bury my grandparents prematurely because of an incompetent government protecting a broken economic system that can only continue to function if we accept mass death as we all waddle back out to Dillard’s and Chick-fil-A.
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How about you get off your azz and protect your grandparents if you care that much? Let them live with you in isolation. They’ll surely be OK if you insure it.
You do realize that people die everyday? You do realize that according to the CDC- 80,000 people died in the US last year attributable to the flu? Where was your outrage then? That’s nearly twice as many as died in the entire Vietnam war (haha).
You have SO bought into the panic hype. Step back- take a breath. Think big picture. I’m not being a smart azz- I just am fed up with the spin and hype regarding virus and pandemic.
We are charting unprecedented infringement of the first amendment over an issue that has been grossly misrepresented. And we don’t even know what the health consequences we’ll attribute to the social isolation. I guarantee we see a spike in anxiety/depression, addiction due to fear of disease and loss of financial livelihood.
I think you overestimate this imaginary “need” to go to restaurants and get haircuts.
It’s about going to work and earning a wage and in some cases, saving their livelihood hood because they’re business owners.
The potential (I stress potential) deaths from COVID are extremely minute to the millions of people (or 10’s of millions)that may no longer be able to care for themselves/put in bankruptcy over those “potential” deaths.
As seen, the amount of deaths actually attributed to COVID I saw constantly being changed based on the false reporting.
The virus doesn't care about your constitutional rights. This is not the time to be whining about them being violated. See, I value my life and those of my family and friends infinitely more than going to my favourite restaurant or getting a haircut. You may not.
Social distancing works-and that's why we now have an R-0 number below 1 in Britain.
What Is R0? Gauging Contagious Infections
If you wear YOUR mask and make sure YOUR loved ones wear theirs and YOU all stay at home you’ll be protected.
No need to infringe on ANYBODY’s first amendment rights.
I don’t get why that is such a difficult concept for people to grasp. It’s like alcohol kills the liver and people so instead of “prohibition” we let everyone who doesn’t want to risk those side effects abstain and let those who are willing to take the risk drink. Each person has a right to make the choice for themselves.
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except we know americans are really stupid and need to be saved from themselves sometimes. but hey muh freedoms
Well at least 70,000 people are dead as of today, probably more, that number isn’t really slowing down and won’t as the country begins to open back up rapidly.
We took a look around and said we have to put Meemaw, Papaw and those pesky young people recovering from cancer in the dirt by the thousands to save Dairy Queen and Hobby Lobby.
More people died in six weeks than in all of the Vietnam War.
It’s a service economy. It can’t function even in the short term without people going out serving or being served.
Grocery stores are essential, they’re open. Farmers are working. The logistics systems in between are working. Essential businesses have never closed and the economy still ate shit. We don’t make anything anymore. We aren’t an innovation based or manufacturing based economy anymore.
Hospitals are struggling because it turns out they can’t survive on actually doing what they are supposed to do which is treat sick people and save lives. If Randy and Carol aren’t coming in for their yearly colonic that is marked up 800% the healthcare industry can’t survive as is.
So rather than radically change things and try to move towards an economy that is more stable and better serves needs over the wants of people in this country we have to push the mass poor and working class people into a Bataan death march to serve Karens their coffee so the floor doesn’t completely fall out from the economy.
I’m just wondering what level of mass death the American people are willing to accept to number one, preserve their political identity and number two ensure that nothing has to fundamentally change about how we go about our daily lives.
I’d like to see a number. A quarter million dead? Civil War level deaths? Is that acceptable?
We’ve already written off the population of Neyland Stadium or a small American city as basically viral bullet sponges for this economy.
The government and media has done a fantastic job normalizing all of this though. You have to give them credit for that.
If you could rewind to Thanksgiving 2019 and someone tells you that by June next year at least 100k people will be dead you wouldn’t believe them.
“We will be seeing the equivalent of a 9/11 every day in this country by next summer”
You wouldn’t believe them.
Coronavirus model from IHME doubles projected US deaths to 134,000 as social distancing fades - CNN
I estimate we'll see numbers even higher than that. Why? Because stupid. And, we have a lot of stupid in America. So, I say expect a 1/4 million dead Americans by election day.
Hard to see how the Republicans can spin that into a win. Time will tell.
I estimate we'll see numbers even higher than that. Why? Because stupid. And, we have a lot of stupid in America. So, I say expect a 1/4 million dead Americans by election day.
Hard to see how the Republicans can spin that into a win. Time will tell.
Are you dumb? 80k die in an entire year, that’s a high end estimate, from the flu. We have vaccines and viable treatments for the flu. This virus killed 70k in six weeks. A virus that should’ve never been allowed to spread. These are deaths on top of flu deaths.
This virus is magnitudes more deadly for at risk groups than the yearly flu.
There’s no panic, no hype. It’s just reality.
That’s such a dumb take.
pEoplE dIe iN cArS yOu WAnT to BaN caRs?
Old Boris Johnson changed his tune after he about had a vent shoved in his lungs and died.
People are blind until things impact them directly. Those who still don’t move when they have to put someone they care about in the ground are just sociopaths.
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