Jones is gone I think. But yeah we could easily switch. Although we won’t.
First we have to keep Jones, right? Then we need to add two more pieces. We could do it. I wonder how good those pieces will be with the money we have.
Can someone explain to me the desire of going to a 4-3? I'm not really opposed to it but don't think it really fits the guys we have.
That would make simmons probably a DT which means he has less opportunity to make impact plays. Jones stays on the inside with Simmons thats fine.
Landry probably plays end, this might actually be better, let him really focus on getting to the qb.
But then after that thinks get a little hairy. Jayon would be good as the inside backer I think, but he's a free agent. Evans I don't really like anywhere in a 4-3. Long could probably play inside and do alright.
I guess it doesn't sound that bad writing it out, I just don't see what it solves
That would make simmons probably a DT which means he has less opportunity to make impact plays. Jones stays on the inside with Simmons thats fine.
Landry probably plays end, this might actually be better, let him really focus on getting to the qb.
But then after that thinks get a little hairy. Jayon would be good as the inside backer I think, but he's a free agent. Evans I don't really like anywhere in a 4-3. Long could probably play inside and do alright.
I guess it doesn't sound that bad writing it out, I just don't see what it solves
I don't think we have the players for a successful 3-4 either. The D is kind of in the middle of both and this "hybrid" is not working. Pick one and go with it personally.
I don't think Simmons gets less opportunities, it may actually increase opportunities to avoid a double team. He's not a Fat Al type, but a DT can absolutely be disruptive even if the outside guys are getting the sacks.
We need a LB that can cover either way. Jayon was the "best" but he really wasn't that good at covering a RB or TE. Outside rushers needs addressed in either case as well.
I'm only for 4-3 approach because of the previous success. Tennessee has had zero since switching to 3-4 or any version of it.
Yeah I get what you're saying I agree, we have a bunch of mismatch pieces and they're not working. However I feel like our two best players on the front 7 (simmons and Landry) are probably better suited for a 3-4.
But you're right, 4-3 even feels more Titanesque than 3-4
A really good DC can maximize our guys by their strengths. Bum Phillips said it best about Bear Bryant: “ He can take his’n and beat your’n and then turnaround and take your’n and beat his’n”. That’s the kind of defensive mind we need. Bowen was just not up to the job.
But what do we fix? We still need to add 2 starts and depth. And we still don't have a pass rush.
I don't necessarily care and no one runs a ton of base anyway, I just don't see anything that suddenly gets way better.
You mean the success that we had twenty years ago and revisited in 2008 when Fat Al was the best player on the planet?
Because this board was screaming to switch from a 4/3 to 3/4 for years.
Yes, that's exactly what I mean.
At the time, I was even good with the change. Fat Al was leaving, Tulluch was the "star" LB but it looked like the Titans may be able to start applying what Pittsburgh has done for years with their 3-4 D. Lebeau was supposed to help that.
The only thing that did happen was a switch to 3-4 that has yet to work out. Another reason why I can't understand how Pitt DC's aren't poached every year or 2 like Titans OCs. This goes double when considering the actual history of the Titans offense. We are talking about this season being the literal best offense the team has had since moving to Nashville. Why in the world were teams taking out OCs?
Love that Bum quote but I think he said it about Don Shula.
He actually said about both guys. Guess he ran out of cool quotes...
It is just really strange to me that people think the success is related to a base formation that we use like 20% of the time and not talent and execution.
A guy who can maximize results with the players he has is the key. As you said, we run multiple fronts so a lock in to any particular scheme is the wrong focus. We also need a talent upgrade. We need picks 1-3 going defense, defense, defense.
Ah! Makes sense. He was not a man of many words...
Dave Ragone is a favorite to join Art either as OC or in some offensive capacity with Arthur calling the plays.
They've worked together before with the Titans.
It sounds like Dave Ragone could become Falcons' new offensive coordinator
They've worked together before with the Titans.
It sounds like Dave Ragone could become Falcons' new offensive coordinator
I think this goes with the frustrations of what front worked?
I can't think that the talent level dropped off that much from 2 years ago, to last year, to this year.
Failing with multiple fronts seems like all the more reason to try succeeding at least at 1 front. Offenses do something similar with a struggling QB (could be talent, could be execution), they start shrinking the playbook.
I know it's been suggested about switching back to 4-3. I don't know who else is on the same page, that I really don't care as long as something improves. I just know that I've seen success in Tennessee using a 4-3 front. I have yet (in about 10 years) seen a successful defense with the 3-4 front with the exception of 2 years ago, and that was secondary success, not front 7 success.
We have had success on Defense due to the talent and coaching. We get a REAL DC and get the best EDGE or DL available with our first pick and hope for the best. Honestly I wish we could get a overhaul on the whole defensive coaching staff.
I think we learned the hard way. If you don't have the right guys, a 3-4 is worthless.
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