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dg1979us said:
The fact that Manning gets so much freedom to call the plays is still a coaching decision. If the coaches arent happy with his playing calling it should be discussed, Tom Moore is the OC, not Manning. This was a bad loss for the entire team, they were out played and outcoached in almost all areas of the game.
No argument here.

But if he gets credit for calling the offense when things are going well then he deserves the blame when things go badly.
 
Starkiller said:
No argument here.

But if he gets credit for calling the offense when things are going well then he deserves the blame when things go badly.

Good point, but ultimately, letting Manning do what he does is a coaching decision. If he is calling poor plays, the coaches need to get involved and get it fixed. Even though Manning has the freedom to call plays, alot of that success or failure is still on the OC and coaches who have given him the ability to call the plays.
 
Certainly someone needed to be calling better plays for the Colts. And if they need to take some of the playcalling authority away from Manning, that has to be a coaching decision. You might even say they erred by giving it to him.

But he is the one who has the power to change the play at the line of scrimmage yet didn't manage to call plays to protect himself from the blitz. If he is going to criticize the protection, then he needs to start by admitting that he should have called different plays. And he deserves to take the blame for not adjusting his own audibles to the situation at hand.

The CBs announcers commented early on that Manning told them that the Steelers are unique in that, no matter what he calls at the line, they are still going to come with the all out blitz. The fact that he knew that beforehand and still wasn't able to protect himself against it or take advantage of it just goes to show that he was at fault as a play caller.
 
Starkiller said:
Certainly someone needed to be calling better plays for the Colts. And if they need to take some of the playcalling authority away from Manning, that has to be a coaching decision. You might even say they erred by giving it to him.

But he is the one who has the power to change the play at the line of scrimmage yet didn't manage to call plays to protect himself from the blitz. If he is going to criticize the protection, then he needs to start by admitting that he should have called different plays. And he deserves to take the blame for not adjusting his own audibles to the situation at hand.

The CBs announcers commented early on that Manning told them that the Steelers are unique in that, no matter what he calls at the line, they are still going to come with the all out blitz. The fact that he knew that beforehand and still wasn't able to protect himself against it or take advantage of it just goes to show that he was at fault as a play caller.

I cant argue with that, and I think not having edge involved more was certainly a mistake. But somewhere he and Moore have to get on the same page and figure something out, and neither one of them obviously did, which is why they were both outcoached and outplayed.
 
On their second last series for example (the one before the Bettis fumble), Blind Freddy could see the Steelers were going to blitz. Manning didn't audible to a screen or a short pass, or even a max protection scheme. You have 5 guys blocking 8, someone will get through.

The expectation of Manning in those circmstances, where he has proven himself during the regular season to be an excellent decision maker, is to stand his ground in the pocket and complete a pass in the face of the blitz.

It seems to me, that when the pressure of the blitz is coupled with the pressure of critical playoff games, Manning no longer has the fortitude to stand in the pocket or the mental werewithall to make the right decisions (including play calling audibles) to the same extent that he does in less pressure filled situations.

That, in a nutshell, is choking......
 
What I don't get is why the Colts offense dominated the Steelers D the first meeting and then just completely got dominated. It was like they were two completely different teams. Manning rarely had time to do anything, but he did have a bunch of throws that were off. There's probably not another QB who could've done much better against that type of relentless pressure. Makes you wonder how did so much change in between the 2 games between these teams (besides the obvious emotional problems the Colts faced).
 
RollTide said:
The team-first philosophy.
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Yeah those colts have really had trouble winning games the past 3 seasons. 12-4 in 2003, 12-4 in 2004 and 14-2 in 2005. Too bad they don't know how to win football games. Manning has won 66% of his games since his rookie year, missed the playoffs once in the last 7 seasons and won 78% of his games the last 3 years. That's including playoffs! I think whatever philosophy the colts are practicing is working.


Did Bamaboy and Gannon formalize their seperation BEFORE Gayton got involved???
 
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