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Dude he blamed Vrabel for the defensive struggles lol how is that not a bash?

Is TuckFro actually Wesley Woodward?
You caught me!

Do you disagree with his comments? I don’t. His take makes a lot of sense to me. I view “bashing” as unnecessary negativity. This is more like criticism in my mind. It’s fair to criticize Vrable for the defense. He’s never showed he can lead a good defense. I hope that changes.
 
You caught me!

Do you disagree with his comments? I don’t. His take makes a lot of sense to me. I view “bashing” as unnecessary negativity. This is more like criticism in my mind. It’s fair to criticize Vrable for the defense. He’s never showed he can lead a good defense. I hope that changes.

Right but he loses some credibility to me when he says that but started off by saying he respects his defensive mind for game planning. Which is it? Lol because if Vrabel is putting together good gamplans then it really is an execution problem... see how it’s contradictory?

I agree Vrabel hasn’t shown that he can lead a successful defense. I’m there with you but that doesn’t mean Woodward doesn’t hold a grudge against Vrabel.
 
by the way..... our defense was just as terrible the afc champ game vs KC as we were in the regular season. Idk if Woodyard remembers that
I don’t disagree, but that wasn’t the point. It is strange that Vrable took all play calling duties away from Pees especially when you look at what the D did against the Pats and Ravens in the playoffs.
 
Right but he loses some credibility to me when he says that but started off by saying he respects his defensive mind for game planning. Which is it? Lol because if Vrabel is putting together good gamplans then it really is an execution problem... see how it’s contradictory?

I agree Vrabel hasn’t shown that he can lead a successful defense. I’m there with you but that doesn’t mean Woodward doesn’t hold a grudge against Vrabel.
I don’t remember him praising Vrable’s defensive mind for play calling. I’ll have to listen again.
 
I don’t disagree, but that wasn’t the point. It is strange that Vrable took all play calling duties away from Pees especially when you look at what the D did against the Pats and Ravens in the playoffs.

Pats had insurance salesmen at WR and Julian Edelman... Lamar got uncomfortable when he couldn't dissect the defense with TE's continuously. (and alot of that game had to do with Lamar's indecision on 4th and short attempts)

Lamar still had over 500 yards of total offense on us....

If Pees had allowed only 250-300 yards passing game 1, i can understand the imbalance.. I imagine that first game had ALOT to do with it.... whether the statement is true or not.
 
I’m not ignoring the question. I told you I don’t remember him saying that. I’ll go back and listen again. If he actually said that, then yes it is contradictory.

I didn’t say anything about calling plays. I’m talking about him crediting vrabels mind for game planning. So in Woodyards own words. His game plans weren’t the issue. So that leaves execution of the game plan as the problem, according to Woodyard.

But then he backtracks and blames the entire thing on Vrabel lol. He’s sticking up for the players and has a bad taste in his mouth about Vrabel for how things ended. I don’t think there’s anything more to it.

If players on the team felt this way the locks room wouldn’t be as strong as they all claim it is. Many of the players on the team say it’s the best locker room they’ve ever been in. Hard to have that if the players hate the coach.
 
Big difference in game plan and individual play calling.

Game plan : run the ball on offense, blitz on defense.


play calling: Henry up the middle repeated 48 times. LB blitz repeated every play.

game plan was good going into the game... that play calling killed us.
 
Big difference in game plan and individual play calling.

Game plan : run the ball on offense, blitz on defense.


play calling: Henry up the middle repeated 48 times. LB blitz repeated every play.

game plan was good going into the game... that play calling killed us.

Well Vrabel didn’t call defensive plays in 2020 either.
 
In my opinion, Mike Vrabel hasn't done nearly enough as a head coach to be a hard-ass. I'm guessing WW's comments are spot-on, especially considering Vrabel promoted a nobody to DC instead of finding somebody w/a solid pedigree... like Pees when he was brought in. He doesn't want anybody w/enough clout to question him.

We'll see, but if the defense blows again this year, it might be time to reign in little Mikey.
 
In my opinion, Mike Vrabel hasn't done nearly enough as a head coach to be a hard-ass. I'm guessing WW's comments are spot-on, especially considering Vrabel promoted a nobody to DC instead of finding somebody w/a solid pedigree... like Pees when he was brought in. He doesn't want anybody w/enough clout to question him.

We'll see, but if the defense blows again this year, it might be time to reign in little Mikey.

Woodyard praised that “nobody” Vrabel promoted though lol
 
This is ridiculous. 10 pages of conversation over what a former player, who hasn't played for another team since. Sure there might be something to this but notice it isn't breaking news when a player says their coach is awesome.
 
Both?

Vrabel is stubborn and Woodyard has sour grapes?
Vrabel is stubborn and has an ego..like its been mentioned, all HC have egos to some degree...its whether that ego is detrimental to the team...we will see this year, it will be telling for Vrabel. I think JRob has made decent changes to improve areas of weakness....If Bowen fails again, thats on Vrabel imo
 
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