Agreed. I've seen the same thing with several guys known for being really good in pass protection that we could pick before pick 20. And if we pick up a 3rd or better in that move there are several guys in that range that could really help at DT, safety, TE, and maybe even slot WR. So the real equation is probably Fashanu + another starter > Alt.
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Coaching was a big part of the problem with the OL
Actually, all that matters is what big daddy Callahan thinks about the OL prospects. Whoever they choose to play OL, in the draft, I will completely trust as the best pick. Only at OL, though. Lots of draft trauma to process as a Titans fan.
And I think maybe we focused too much on run blocking and neglected pass pro when we evaluated players. Ended up with a bunch of guys that are a liability in the passing game.
2024 NFL Draft: Titans host Alabama CB Terrion Arnold on pre-draft visit
Arnold is ranked anywhere from 11 to 15 depending on which draft board/engine you look at. If there is a run on QB and OT he could still be on the board in the late teens or even early 20s.
Arnold is ranked anywhere from 11 to 15 depending on which draft board/engine you look at. If there is a run on QB and OT he could still be on the board in the late teens or even early 20s.
This is wishful thinking on my part, but hopefully he is telling Ran that the guy we just signed along with a couple of later picks he really likes will be all we need. He can improve everybody else. That would be cool. But I would probably completely go into panic mode if that happens (along with most everybody on here).
This is 100% correct. This was a result of having Henry on the team and being too run centric. Not a dig at Henry at all, he was amazing and I loved having him, but I'm excited to see the Titans employ a modern offense for once.
They can focus on whatever but the OL didn’t run block either.
I’m not sure what “modern offense” people are looking for exactly, but consider a team like SF, very run/pass balanced, play D.
Detroit and Miami fall similarly.
If success is determined by points, yards, and victories and doesn’t equate to a run/pass balance, the “modern offense” is Baltimore, Buffalo, Philadelphia.
titans don’t have the QB for that, unless Levis is about to run for 600 yards.
A modern NFL offense is an offense that doesn't finish bottom 10 in passing offense like we have almost every year single year since McNair left.
So a “modern offense” is determined after the season is over?
As long as the team doesn’t finish bottom 10 in passing, they’re “modern” but if they do, they’re not “modern”?
As long as the team doesn’t finish bottom 10 in passing, they’re “modern” but if they do, they’re not “modern”?
so one third of teams dont run a modern offense every year
which ones get the memo in the offseason
That's why I feel a trade back is imminent. Grab a guy that's going to fit what you're trying to run (which is obviously a spread offense) and at the same time get you a second pick or two this draft that will allow you to address LT, WR, S, and DL in the first 2/front 3 rounds.
4/16 update. not sure how much it has changed.
- Kris Abrams-Draine, Cornerback, Missouri (T30)
- Rasheen Ali, Running Back, Marshall (T30)
- Joe Alt^, Offensive Tackle, Notre Dame (COM, T30)
- Terrion Arnold, Cornerback, Alabama (T30)
- Brock Bowers, Tight End, Georgia (COM)
- Jarvis Brownlee Jr., Cornerback, Louisville (T30)
- Caelen Carson, Cornerback, Wake Forest (T30)
- Junior Colson, Linebacker, Michigan (T30)
- Olumuyiwa Fashanu, Offensive Tackle, Penn State (COM)
- Tyler Guyton, Offensive Tackle, Oklahoma (T30)
- McKinnley Jackson, Nose Tackle, Texas A&M (T30)
- Cedric Johnson, Defensive End, Ole Miss (COM)
- Isaiah Johnson, Safety, Syracuse (PRO)
- J.C. Latham, Offensive Tackle, Alabama (T30)
- Marshawn Lloyd, Running Back, USC (T30)
- Kool-Aid McKinstry, Cornerback, Alabama (T30)
- Jordan Morgan, Offensive Tackle, Arizona (COM)
- Malik Nabers^, Wide Receiver, LSU (COM, PRO, T30)
- Bo Nix, Quarterback, Oregon (COM)
- Rome Odunze, Wide Receiver, Washington (COM)
- Patrick Paul, Offensive Tackle, Houston (COM)
- Darius Robinson, Defensive Tackle, Missouri (VIR)
- T'Vondre Sweat, Defensive Tackle, Texas (T30)
- Devontez Walker, Wide Receiver, North Carolina (VIR)
- Roman Wilson, Wide Receiver, Michigan (T30)
Vrabel only cared about OL that were strong outside zone blockers.
No, no... players that just loved football, and can hear to be coached.........
Which explains alot of our issues lol.
Yup, the stars certainly say so- only other possible is a WR there or trade. Doubtful with FA acquisitions.
We've finished bottom 5 in passing offense about as many times as we've finished in the 5-10 range. I doubt you will find 5 franchises over the last 20 years who have had less production from their QB than the Titans have. And the ones that do, are notoriously poor and drafting/developing QBs (Bears, Browns, Jets,, etc).
Even when we had Tanne playing well in 2019 and 2020, we were among the bottom 5 in pass attempts both seasons. And we finished 20th in passing yards in 2019 and 22nd in passing yards in 2020. And these were the most impressive seasons by a Titans QB since McNair's MVP season.
If you can't understand how sad that is, there is something wrong with you.
Amazing they reached the AFCCG, the playoffs, and a #1 AFC seed with such a terrible offense.
either it’s not necessary or NOT passing the most is arguably effective.
