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I don't think people here understand what 50/50 balls are. Winston threw a couple, perfectly placed where Evans could shield his defender and come down with it. Tannehill threw several last week to Davis and Brown, all caught. An Under thrown ball which hits a CB in the hands isn't 50/50 and is just another excuse to complain.

As far as getting open, it's strange that Davis and Humphries could be well over 3 yards of separation per target while heavily involved a year ago, yet none of our receivers can seem to budge at all now. And Davis did it while being bracketed by the secondary. The play design and play calling is a huge issue. It's exactly as it was with Robiskie, these plays are predictable and have no chance and the players know it.

Don't disagree with what you're saying but I was at the game. I watched CD84 on many routes. He just wasn't open. I think CD84 is just alright- a #1 v #2. I haven't seen him lay out for a ball.

And if it's the system/play-calling, how does that explain the difference in productivity of AB11?
 
AJ Brown a beast man. 2 catches on that 1 target
We're not talking about just the Bucs game, the entire season I would say AJ has made more of an impact and really asserts himself. He makes a catch and his YAC is the part of a #1. Turns nothing into something. Corey on the other hand is just another guy such as Taj.
 
That deep ball was under thrown
Tammy had a Tammy game. This is what Miami fans have been disgruntled with him about. There will be games where he looks great but expect this more often, sound familiar? He was given the ball 2x under 10 yards of the end zone and did what he was supposed to and threw nice td strikes. But outside of that it was just below average.
 
We're not talking about just the Bucs game, the entire season I would say AJ has made more of an impact and really asserts himself. He makes a catch and his YAC is the part of a #1. Turns nothing into something. Corey on the other hand is just another guy such as Taj.

I quoted the "AJ had 1 target". I have no idea why you quoted me and said that. Has absolutely nothing to do with what I quoted.
 
Don't disagree with what you're saying but I was at the game. I watched CD84 on many routes. He just wasn't open. I think CD84 is just alright- a #1 v #2. I haven't seen him lay out for a ball.

And if it's the system/play-calling, how does that explain the difference in productivity of AB11?
What difference are you talking about? Brown is averaging 2 more yards per game. And nearly half of his yardage has come on 3 PA passes against busted coverage on some of the least undisciplined teams in the league. He's been no more of a consistent presence than anyone.

Regarding the separation issue- Kevin Dyson said he knew exactly what play that we were going to run based on alignment without even watching any of our tape. Imagine what an experienced DC sees. There were clips on Twitter of the defense reacting to the plays before they even had an opportunity to unfold. It doesn't matter how good the players are, if the defense knows what's coming, it's going to be nearly impossible to move the ball. Which is why Tannehill is having to be so aggressive and throw into tight windows, because the defenders are practically running the routes themselves.

I saw this thing unfold years ago with Rodgers in GB. Which is why he became a heel for the league, because he was so visually frustrated that every DC had deciphered the offense and he had to play out of his mind in order to overcome that. That's the kind of QB talented needed in order for these receivers to meet our expectations.
 
What difference are you talking about? Brown is averaging 2 more yards per game. And nearly half of his yardage has come on 3 PA passes against busted coverage on some of the least undisciplined teams in the league. He's been no more of a consistent presence than anyone.

Regarding the separation issue- Kevin Dyson said he knew exactly what play that we were going to run based on alignment without even watching any of our tape. Imagine what an experienced DC sees. There were clips on Twitter of the defense reacting to the plays before they even had an opportunity to unfold. It doesn't matter how good the players are, if the defense knows what's coming, it's going to be nearly impossible to move the ball. Which is why Tannehill is having to be so aggressive and throw into tight windows, because the defenders are practically running the routes themselves.

I saw this thing unfold years ago with Rodgers in GB. Which is why he became a heel for the league, because he was so visually frustrated that every DC had deciphered the offense and he had to play out of his mind in order to overcome that. That's the kind of QB talented needed in order for these receivers to meet our expectations.

A.J. Brown Advanced Stats, Metrics and Analytics Player Profile

Corey Davis - Player Profile Advaned Football Stats, Metrics & Analytics
 
Their catch rate is exactly the same . The yardage is virtually the same. Brown is slightly higher in YPC, but the sample size is small and he had a couple of huge freebie gains against some bad defenses. Again, I'm not sure what you are getting at.

I think it's just the expectations you all have. You'd be blasting Brown for dropping the pass against Indy , or being unable to get the first against LA had we lost, simply because he'd be the #5 pick and should do no wrong
 
Their catch rate is exactly the same . The yardage is virtually the same. Brown is slightly higher in YPC, but the sample size is small and he had a couple of huge freebie gains against some bad defenses. Again, I'm not sure what you are getting at.

I think it's just the expectations you all have. You'd be blasting Brown for dropping the pass against Indy , or being unable to get the first against LA had we lost, simply because he'd be the #5 pick and should be capable of doing inhuman things.

I posted the links because I think it is a good analysis. They only have Davis at one drop and Brown at zero- so meh- maybe a toss up. My eye test says Davis less reliable on contested balls and he doesn't lay out in attempt to catch an overthrown ball. I've seen about 3 or 4 that I shook my head saying at least attempt.

Anyway you're spot on that I expect more from Davis being drafted at #5.
 
Tammy had a Tammy game. This is what Miami fans have been disgruntled with him about. There will be games where he looks great but expect this more often, sound familiar? He was given the ball 2x under 10 yards of the end zone and did what he was supposed to and threw nice td strikes. But outside of that it was just below average.
Meh. You and many others would have said this was a great Mary game.
 
I posted the links because I think it is a good analysis. They only have Davis at one drop and Brown at zero- so meh- maybe a toss up. My eye test says Davis less reliable on contested balls and he doesn't lay out in attempt to catch an overthrown ball. I've seen about 3 or 4 that I shook my head saying at least attempt.

Anyway you're spot on that I expect more from Davis being drafted at #5.
I get why people are higher on Brown. But he's on pace to be much less productive than Davis was a year ago when the QB couldn't grip the ball and the defense was focused on him. The offensive game plan is clearly failing a lot of players, and the lack of decent opportunities makes people nitpick more than they should.
 
Regardless of who's drawing up the plays, you want more production out of your #5th overall pick.

Yes I admit that we have an anemic offense but Davis just isn't playing like the dynamic WR we expected. I mean look at Evans. Has he been blessed with a great QB and OC? Same goes for AJ Green. The list goes on and on.

At pick #5, it's his job to make an OC and QB look better than they actually are.

Winston throws jump balls to Evans constantly. Yes he's a gifted receiver, but he gets opportunities to show off his skills. How many times do we throw Davis jump balls? Hell, how many times was he even targeted yesterday?

Kinda hard to make plays when they don't throw it to you. When he's targeted, he generally balls out like he did vs San Diego.
 
We will never have a true number 1 receiver with this archaic, predictable 'run, run, pass' offensive philosophy our coaches are stubbornly persisting with.

The game plan was especially moronic considering the Bucs are the number 1 ranked rush defense and 32nd ranked pass defense.

Julio Jones would probably only get 3 targets a game in this offense.

As Jimmy on MCM said: 'The Titans are still an “establish the run stuck in the 1980’s” football team. Their ceiling will be around .500 as long as they stick to that mentality.'
 
We will never have a true number 1 receiver with this archaic, predictable 'run, run, pass' offensive philosophy our coaches are stubbornly persisting with.

The game plan was especially moronic considering the Bucs are the number 1 ranked rush defense and 32nd ranked pass defense.

Julio Jones would probably only get 3 targets a game in this offense.

As Jimmy on MCM said: 'The Titans are still an “establish the run stuck in the 1980’s” football team. Their ceiling will be around .500 as long as they stick to that mentality.'

Soooooo why was Mariota benched again?
 
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