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Been watching more film on the edge guys....I was surprised to see how many of Rousseaus sacks came from him lining up inside and just out quicking the guard. I'm not sure he gets away with that at the pro level, but it is intriguing to think about Landry, Rousseau, Autry, Dupree as a pass rush package
 
Been watching more film on the edge guys....I was surprised to see how many of Rousseaus sacks came from him lining up inside and just out quicking the guard. I'm not sure he gets away with that at the pro level, but it is intriguing to think about Landry, Rousseau, Autry, Dupree as a pass rush package

Yeah, you look at Rousseau and you look at his measurables and sacks and get the idea of this prototypical speed edge guy. And that isn't his game at all.
 
I'm beginning to think more and more that since we already have our two starting edge guys (Landry, Dupree) that we wait to take a pass rusher.

If we wait until the 3rd, there are still some guys there that have talent. I really like Rashad Weaver from PITT and Quincy Roche from Miami. Need to go find tape on more of the mid-round guys. Anybody have a mid-round edge guy you like?
 
please no reach picks like this....show me the plays on the field in pads, not a work out in shorts......I'd take him in the 4th at the earliest.... a guy with those measurables should be causing havoc on the field but only has 7 sacks in 3 yrs and 2 FF

I can understand why you have this opinion, he's a very raw player, but he only started playing football as a HS Sr. 3 years is misleading given he was a situational guy for 2 of them and the 3rd was all screwed up because of Covid and had 24 total ganes played in college.

Watching tape he has a high motor and gets pressure often enough to not concern me. He'a a guy I'd prefer to try to trade up for an earlier 2nd to get ideally rather than take at 22. If we still had Wash coaching the DL/pass rush I'd be all for him at 22, but as it stands I'd consider him there only if the positions and players we'd rather draft have runs ahead of us.
 
Got to mention Jayson Oweh after the pro day he just had, 6'5" 257 with a 4.36 40, 1.59 10 yard split, 4.15 shuttle and a 6.84 3 cone with a 39.5" vert and an 11'2" broadjump. Very much a raw player but that size/speed combo alone is worth a look, the 3 cone with that shouldn't be physically possible. He's basically a bigger and more agile/maneuverable DK Metcalf trying to get after the QB. At least worth considering if no WR falls imo

He is an amazing athlete, but yeah very raw. College production was very weak.
 
I would love to see us take a chance on Chris Garrett in the 6th/7th as a developmental OLB. Use him to spell our pass rusher and learn.i think he could end up the steal of the draft.
 
He’s not an edge, but living in NC had a lot of opportunity to see Alim McNeill. He’s a wrecking ball for the 3rd round.
 
I like Basham but feel he fits the 4-3 scheme better...I don't want him dropping into pass coverage. In our scheme I would see him more as a DT than the rush OLBer.
I could see him more as a 3-4 DE. Move Autry to the middle and line up Landry, Basham, Autry, Simmons, Dupree and ATTACK!
 
We rarely play 3 man fronts in pass rush situations.

So Basham would be on the bench or trying to chase Tyreek Hill on a crossing pattern or something.
 
Shaka Toney from Penn St is a mid rnd guy I like...He was stuck behind some pretty solid talent at DE, but when he got his chances he produced... 28 TFL and 20 sacks in his 4 yr career.

Hamilcar Rashed from Oregon State is a later rnd guy I like...He had 14 sacks his junior yr and then 0 sacks this yr during the late starting Pac-12 season. He needs major work on his rush moves and use of hands, but he is very instinctual in terms of reading and reacting to read option type plays and he has a good motor.
 
I just don't see it with Ojulari. I've watched him over and over trying to make myself like him, but he just seems like just another guy (I'm talking about as a 1st rounder).

Are there any mid round pass rushers you guys like?
I like Ojularis explosion off the snap and relentless pursuit. He would be an awesome addition to our pass rush.
 
Shaka Toney from Penn St is a mid rnd guy I like...He was stuck behind some pretty solid talent at DE, but when he got his chances he produced... 28 TFL and 20 sacks in his 4 yr career.

Hamilcar Rashed from Oregon State is a later rnd guy I like...He had 14 sacks his junior yr and then 0 sacks this yr during the late starting Pac-12 season. He needs major work on his rush moves and use of hands, but he is very instinctual in terms of reading and reacting to read option type plays and he has a good motor.

Pick these guys based on their names alone
 
Joe Tryon is growing on me. He has a tremendous first step/ ability to time up the snap. I like that he played all over the front at UW....standup edge rusher RT and LT side, DE in the 3-4, and even over the center sometimes...he looks natural when asked to drop into coverage too.

I think this edge class is quite deep just no Super stud Chase Young types
 
We rarely play 3 man fronts in pass rush situations.

So Basham would be on the bench or trying to chase Tyreek Hill on a crossing pattern or something.

Yea I'm not sure what pickle juice these guys are drinking but it looks like we will go more to a 4-3 and use a 4 man front 60% or more of the time even as a 3-4 team. Every year it is the same. You tell them 1000 times and they still think this is a 3-4 team against the pass. We might not hardly use a NT (probably a 4-3 under) at all and the way I see it Autry was brought in to start at strong side DE. Dupree will play weak side and Landry will be used more in passing scenarios with Autry possibly moving to a 3. We brought Jim Schwartz in as a defensive advisor and he has never run a 3-4 in his life.
 
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