Yes plus it's just someone else's opinion, I'm not knocking him, well not much, but to me he's not greatI can respect that except JRob hasn’t won a super bowl and he’s ranked above some who have. Plus that was 2019-20 season. I think he’d get roasted for last years FA moves and draft.
I guess it depends on how "great" is measured
Roster talent...draft picks...cap space... W-L record...playoff appearances...SB wins?
Just one comment on Belicheck - perhaps even a question... Is won/loss a better gauge of success than “difference makers” drafted? I am asking for any and all opinions on this. What is the greatest metric to judge a GM?
GM’s are paid to acquire talent. Coaches are paid to win. He does both GM and coach so it’s a different argument than others I guess but I didn’t include GB GM because of decisions he’s made via FA and drafting. They’ve won because of 12 not because of their GM acquiring a bunch of talent, in my opinion.
Until Bill can price last year was an anomaly, it looks like TB12 made that team go and clearly they lacked talent when he left which is Bill’s responsibility.
I can respect that except JRob hasn’t won a super bowl and he’s ranked above some who have. Plus that was 2019-20 season. I think he’d get roasted for last years FA moves and draft.
JRob also took over a 2-14 team lol
What proof are you looking for?!? Davis pff rating is way higher than hisSTILL NO PROOF!!!!!
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I’ll pass. Not interested in playing that game.
Why is it so hard for you to back up your opinion on this? Lol why even try to discuss this stuff if you aren’t going to actually talk about it?
Because I played this game before I list 10 and then they’ll be a debate on one through 10 and somebody asks me to prove my point on the one through 10. I’ve also stated it is my opinion and it’s fair to judge JRob on his win and loss record. That’s really where I stand just don’t care to debate it piece by piece. I believe he’s just above average.Why is it so hard for you to back up your opinion on this? Lol why even try to discuss this stuff if you aren’t going to actually talk about it?
So what? A broken clock is right twice a day.JRob also took over a 2-14 team lol
Because I played this game before I list 10 and then they’ll be a debate on one through 10 and somebody asks me to prove my point on the one through 10. I’ve also stated it is my opinion and it’s fair to judge JRob on his win and loss record. That’s really where I stand just don’t care to debate it piece by piece. I believe he’s just above average.
Then why do you keep commenting? You know it’s going to lead to someone asking you to list out your thoughts.
So what? A broken clock is right twice a day.
Fantastic analysis. That has nothing to do with this though. If every GM could pull a team out of that then the Browns, Jets, Lions, Jags, and others who have sucked for long periods of time have a lot of explaining to do.
This list is suspect as it lists Bill O’Brien over anyone.
That was my point, just opinions...anyone that wants to call JRob great, go ahead, I don't think he is.This list is suspect as it lists Bill O’Brien over anyone.
Davis had a outlier yearWhat proof are you looking for?!? Davis pff rating is way higher than his
He has done nothing to be considered great at all. He isnt bad either though.That was my point, just opinions...anyone that wants to call JRob great, go ahead, I don't think he is.
Yes that's what I've been saying, he's good not great.He has done nothing to be considered great at all. He isnt bad either though.
You shouldn’t operate heavy equipment for a while then.I have nausea after reading 4 straight pages.
Point taken!You shouldn’t operate heavy equipment for a while then.
No those GMs who don’t get fired.Fantastic analysis. That has nothing to do with this though. If every GM could pull a team out of that then the Browns, Jets, Lions, Jags, and others who have sucked for long periods of time have a lot of explaining to do.
That’s fair. I comment when it’s obvious he’s made a bad move and some JRob knob slobber comes along to rationalize all great GMs make a bad move. Honestly, that’s the only time I’m compelled to interject some comment to balance the dialogue.Then why do you keep commenting? You know it’s going to lead to someone asking you to list out your thoughts.
and to be fair, you’ll find numerous posts by me when I think he’s he’s made a really good move.
No those GMs who don’t get fired.
because pulling a team out of 2-14 isn’t easy.
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