New team assumes his contract if we fade him. Plus, teams knew he was going to be released so why give up something when you can just wait until the release.
I get that but it was a "surprise cut" to many, so not sure how teams knew he would be released?
You get that deal when you realize JRob is a slightly above average GM.
Surprise to us fans... I doubt it was in the NFL. They know stuff we never know. Small frat.
STILL NO PROOF!!!!!
FYI: I AM IRONMAN
The Bears did the exact same thing with Leonard Floyd last yr...they cut him the day before the new league yr began after having picked up his 5th yr option....Floyd was not included in the Bears comp pick formula...We will not get a comp pick for Adoree
With what money? If somehow this does happen, then it would probably have to be a multi-year deal to push back the cap hit AND someone like Saffold or Jones would have to be cut. Maybe restructure Byard and Lewan? Both have underperformed their contracts.
I'd rather keep the o-line intact than have Clowney.
32 decisions makers in the NFL. "Slightly above average"... please list the 12 to 15 GMs you'd rather have.
Just curious. Regardless of your answers, you won't get an argument from me.
The corner we added is only a year older than Butler. 31 and 32.
Good luck. I’ve asked this same question multiple times. Never got an answer from him.
Maybe he feels they are either slightly above average, average or terrible, there are no great ones? Belichek maybe?
JRob is not great, he's made mistakes just like he's done some head scratchers...that imo makes him slightly above average
Or let's just say he's good not great and leave it at that
I actually don’t pay enough attention to other teams’ front offices to name 12-15 GMs good or bad. Clearly, no one bats .1000 at this gig. JR has made some really good moves and some really bad moves. I am not even sure how you would slot GMs by grade. Win/loss? Is it that simple, or is there more to it? I think he didn’t do as well with the “kings ransom” as I would have wished. But getting Tannehill was a strong move. Ignored kicker too long, but the 2019 draft was a marvel. Which decision are you going to migrate to? It’s a defensible argument either way - excellent or slightly above average?
No great ones? So if you’re number one in the world at your job you aren’t great? Too 5 in the world and you aren’t great? Whoever is number 1-5 on your list they are great... if you don’t think there are any great GM’s in the league maybe it’s time to adjust your expectations.
Forgive me for having an opinion...and that it doesn't match the JRob knob swingers...he's a good GM, he's not great...thats my opinion
So tell me who the great ones are and why?
If you’re opinion is you can at the top of your craft and not be great then I just think you need to re examine your expectations.
I mean if you were the top person at your job and your boss said you weren’t great your argument would be to ask who is better, no?
Sure I’ll show everyone how to actually back up a statement like this.
I think the current great GM’s in the NFL are, in no particular order:
Brandon Beane
Mickey Loomis
Kevin Colbert
John Schneider
Jason Licht
Les Snead
Brett Veach
Jon Robinson
Everyone on this list has bad draft picks. Bad FA signings, or extensions but the overall body work has been excellent to date.
Could make an argument for a few others. (John Lynch comes to mind but there are some reports that he reports to the HC on all decisions so not sure about that). Chris Ballard I think could be on the list soon. are some newer GM’s who might prove to be great but not enough time has passed to truly judge their work. (Andrew Berry, Eric DeCosta).
Dont think Belicheck makes the list anymore. When’s the last time he drafted a difference maker? But maybe after this offseason he proves us all wrong.
Just one comment on Belicheck - perhaps even a question... Is won/loss a better gauge of success than “difference makers” drafted? I am asking for any and all opinions on this. What is the greatest metric to judge a GM?
Nice input to your argument
tbh I don't know them all that well but I know to be labeled great, I need more...high expectations? Absolutely...comes with labeled great
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I’ll pass. Not interested in playing that game.
I can respect that except JRob hasn’t won a super bowl and he’s ranked above some who have. Plus that was 2019-20 season. I think he’d get roasted for last years FA moves and draft.
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