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If anything proves the offense is moron Vrabel offense, it is the Henry 3rd down and finishing games thing. That has been in play since Henry was drafted, regardless of OC. Vrabel takes Henry out, not the OC.

and honestly, Vrabel's stubborness is really making me start to dislike him. I may end up hoping we lose every single game next season to force a change if he isnt willing to make some changes and grow.
It's a shame he's so hard headed because vrabel does so much well. He gets the most out of his guys, he knows the rule book inside and out, he gameplans really well against teams that we should be overmatched against. But his stubbornness is a thorn in his side that's ultimately going to hold the team back and cost him his job.
 
His fumbles are up, his ypc is down, his ypg is down, his big runs are down. He's fine, but just fine. If we had another piece on offense, that would be great but him as the focal point right now? It's not scaring anyone.

Also thanks for putting that list together it's interesting to see. Amari Rodgers is ****en hilarious.
I thought the same about Rodgers. Had to look up his KR/PR. He has a total of 10 catches and 1 carry.

I think the OL is a serious issue for Henry. Per touch, his fumbles are still less than his last year with 5, but his second worst.
The frustrating thing about the big runs is he had a bunch against Jax but only got 2 carries in the second half. He also has a bunch of 8-9 yard runs in LA.
I think we got accustomed to his 40+ yard runs over the years. It’s been disappointing, but I think it’s a mix of injury return and a s**t OL.
 
I thought the same about Rodgers. Had to look up his KR/PR. He has a total of 10 catches and 1 carry.

I think the OL is a serious issue for Henry. Per touch, his fumbles are still less than his last year with 5, but his second worst.
The frustrating thing about the big runs is he had a bunch against Jax but only got 2 carries in the second half. He also has a bunch of 8-9 yard runs in LA.
I think we got accustomed to his 40+ yard runs over the years. It’s been disappointing, but I think it’s a mix of injury return and a s**t OL.
Most stats I've seen have our oline about average for run blocking and henry about average for yards over expected. I do agree this is probably the worst oline he's worked with, but it's not like it's an awful oline as far as run blocking goes. But it is another indictment against jrob that we traded away our other best playmaker than failed to surround our one piece left with the talent he needs to succeed.

I also think henry has lost a step, I don't think he has break away speed anymore which limits his upside quite a bit.
 
17 carries
121 yards
1 TD

275 attempts (1st)
1199 yards (2nd)
11 TD (tied 3rd)
4.4 YPC (29th)

Also with henry fumbling twice he is now tied for second in the NFL for fumbles outside of QB's. The guy who is first? Was released because he was fumbling too much.

We now have a top 5 positional cap hit for an average back who fumbles too much. Yikes.
21 carries
104 yards
1 TD
5 YPC

296 carries (1st)
1303 yards (2nd)
12 TD (tied 3rd)
4.4 YPC (24th)

Nice game for henry. Going to be interesting to see how much work he gets in the passing game with Hilliard being done for the season.
 
His fumbles are up, his ypc is down, his ypg is down, his big runs are down. He's fine, but just fine. If we had another piece on offense, that would be great but him as the focal point right now? It's not scaring anyone.

Also thanks for putting that list together it's interesting to see. Amari Rodgers is ****en hilarious.
His receptions are way up.
 
Blaming Henry?? are you kidding me? Better be grateful we even have anyone to focus on. This offense is one of the worst I have ever seen. The defense somehow gets stops playing our corners about 7 yards from scrimmage every play. This team is a joke.
 
Most stats I've seen have our oline about average for run blocking and henry about average for yards over expected. I do agree this is probably the worst oline he's worked with, but it's not like it's an awful oline as far as run blocking goes. But it is another indictment against jrob that we traded away our other best playmaker than failed to surround our one piece left with the talent he needs to succeed.

I also think henry has lost a step, I don't think he has break away speed anymore which limits his upside quite a bit.

He definitely still has breakaway speed and is still very fast, but I do agree, there’s been a few 40 yard runs this year that would have been an 80 yard td pre-injury DH22. DH22 is still a top 5 back, but he’s 29, has a lot of wear and tear, and had a serious foot injury… he can’t do it himself anymore as we’re starting to see the start of a decline. We were just the number 1 seed, if the plan was to use whatever Henry had left and make a SB run, trading AJ made absolutely no sense.
 
derrick henry will still be elite into his 30s, he probably has lost a slight step but hes still a cheat code for his size/speed. thats what makes him so ageless. his success doesnt require him to be elite at any one attribute. although his elite speed is what made him the undisputed goat RB, hes still too big and too fast
 
derrick henry will still be elite into his 30s, he probably has lost a slight step but hes still a cheat code for his size/speed. thats what makes him so ageless. his success doesnt require him to be elite at any one attribute. although his elite speed is what made him the undisputed goat RB, hes still too big and too fast
I want to see him stick around long enough to pass EG.
Currently, that’s about 1800 yards away, but if he breaks 10K in the current climate of all RB are dead at 30, he’d be a sure fire HoF.

Titans have not had anyone start as a titan and reach the Hall. Couple oilers/Titans and a couple FA titans, but none selected as a Titan.
CJ2K May be the next shot, but Henry will have a better shot.
 
EG was a fan favorite but slightly overrated if we're talking about talent wise. He was a good player, but never elite nor dominant. His toughness overshadowed his skill.
 
His fumbles are up, his ypc is down, his ypg is down, his big runs are down. He's fine, but just fine. If we had another piece on offense, that would be great but him as the focal point right now? It's not scaring anyone.

Also thanks for putting that list together it's interesting to see. Amari Rodgers is ****en hilarious.
The rest of the team is down also. From OL to not a single other threat on the field .. 1300 yards and 12 TDs is still a pretty damn good season so far. That 4 game stretch before the Jax game really put a damper on his stats.

Let's say he ends with ~1600 yards and 15 TDs. That would be an awesome complement to the passing game if the Titans had one.
 
Henry has the highest yards per reception this year for a running back and has caught 79 percent of passes thrown his way. CMC has caught 80 percent of passes thrown his way.
It kills me that they dont use him even more often in the passing game. Especially now that he seems to have lost a step, we need to get him in open field so he can do what he does.
 
Henry has the highest yards per reception this year for a running back and has caught 79 percent of passes thrown his way. CMC has caught 80 percent of passes thrown his way.
CMC receptions 74 vs. Henry's 30. And cmc runs actual routes, not just screens.

Henry has been good at the screen game, I still don't think the comparison to CMC is a fair one.
 
CMC receptions 74 vs. Henry's 30. And cmc runs actual routes, not just screens.

Henry has been good at the screen game, I still don't think the comparison to CMC is a fair one.

I’m not saying Henry is going to Moss anyone but just from the eye test, Henry is dangerous with any kind of open space. Those 5 yard dump offs Tanny throw to him usually turn into big gains, we need to utilize that more especially when your number 1 receiver right now is Robert Woods. Chig needs to be involved more too, just like Henry, it’s going to be a big gain when they touch the ball in any kind of open space.
 
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