How many has he won since Brady left? How many has Brady won since he left?
I’ll hang up and listen.
“BuT tHiS yEaR tHeY aRe #1”
LMFAO.
The 20 best GMs in NFL history
Opinion piece, but Id say team record and SB trophies are highly considered as a ranking tool.
Ranking the NFL's best general managers for the 2021 season from 1-32
According to sporting news, JRob has dropped from #6 last year to #9 this year.
Take it all for what’s its worth but I notice in the “best ever” article, the word elite isn’t used once,
Opinion piece, but Id say team record and SB trophies are highly considered as a ranking tool.
Ranking the NFL's best general managers for the 2021 season from 1-32
According to sporting news, JRob has dropped from #6 last year to #9 this year.
Take it all for what’s its worth but I notice in the “best ever” article, the word elite isn’t used once,
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Probably for his TE debacle this year --- no one has stepped up and grabbed the reins at that position group.
Draft capital could have a hand as well.
So you can use a sample size of one season, but I can't? But also the twenty year sample size is no good? You're a joke lol
Thine name is Tom Brady
It’s call rationalization. And he’s got it bad.
No you can use a 20 year sample but you’ve got to look at the whole picture. Which is what I am trying to show you.
Bill B is a HOF coach but a very pedestrian GM. He was good the first few years in New England but his talent acquisition track record is not very good.
Your problem is you cannot differentiate Bill the coach from Bill the GM. And you forget about TB12 running the show on offense. But carry on
Oh please. You stop responding anytime someone makes a counter point to your BS argument.
You have already changed your narrative in this very thread. Went from “elite GM’s win championships” to “elite GM’s have multiple conference championships or Super Bowls”. All after I posted one example of a GM with a championship but poor tract record otherwise.
You can’t even provide substance to your “slightly above average” comment. I’ve asked you to compare him to other GM’s in the league and you refuse to do so.
Don’t come at me with that rationalization BS.
That’s some eloquent rationalization.
So now the goalpost has moved to he would need “multiple SB wins” to be anything more than average or very good? Do we have go on a 20 year Patriots type run for him to be more than average?
I mean, we have had 5, now 6 winning seasons in a row. We are number three on the list NFL teams with longest consecutive winning seasons. Next year we will be number two. The Seahawks is currently number one with 9, but after this year their streak will be broken.
https://champsorchumps.us/streak/longest-nfl-winning-record-streak
On top of that, we will have won our division 2 years in row for the first time ever. 4 PO appearances, 3 PO wins and one AFC Championship appearance. If that’s not consistent in your eyes, I don’t know what else you would want to see.
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You're all hanging onto these "winning seasons"...I want consistent deeper playoff runs...and forgive me for wanting SB wins.
But yes you're correct four 9-6 seasons in a row is very consistent...my bad
Indeed, good. Elite has its own meaning, and he hasn’t achieved that.
How ever you want to dissect it Jrob has produced the results to put us in the top tier of the NFL and we have for the first time I can ever remember been steadily and consistently a winning franchise and playoff participant.
Other than last year, we have won at least one game in playoffs every appearance so we’re not a one and done team every year.
I’ve always considered making it to an AFC Chamionship game as a deep run in the playoffs so I’m not sure what more you guys who keep saying you want to see a deep run are taking about? I get it, I want a SB too, but compared to the team we were fielding before Jrob, this turn around is almost miraculous. It’s hard to break the cycle of crap, and he did it right away.
Other than last year, we have won at least one game in playoffs every appearance so we’re not a one and done team every year.
I’ve always considered making it to an AFC Chamionship game as a deep run in the playoffs so I’m not sure what more you guys who keep saying you want to see a deep run are taking about? I get it, I want a SB too, but compared to the team we were fielding before Jrob, this turn around is almost miraculous. It’s hard to break the cycle of crap, and he did it right away.
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See post above, I went to respond to you with that post but I guess it didn’t attach.
Considering we lost two starting CBs, a TE and WR and have had the worst string of injuries in NFL history I'd say JRob has done a hell of a job. Our defense has actually improved and that is with a 1st round CB not contributing at all. Molden was a perfect pick to play NB. Our Ss are probably the best tandem in the NFL (one a 3rd and the other a 4th round pick). Two FAs signed to the defensive front if healthy give us one of the best fronts in the league (Ola Adeniyi has been a solid find for depth and STs). And yea, Evans hasn't lived up to billing but a 6th round LB is doing just fine if he can come back healthy.
Yea Henry is hurt now but he is the best RB in the NFL and Brown (also hurt for now) is one of the best WRs. Tannehill (Jrob inherited Mariota) only cost us a 4th round pick.
All in all that is pretty darn good for a GM who started with doo doo and had to basically rebuild 90% of the team. Oh, does anyone forget JRob brought Vrabel in as our HC.
Yea Henry is hurt now but he is the best RB in the NFL and Brown (also hurt for now) is one of the best WRs. Tannehill (Jrob inherited Mariota) only cost us a 4th round pick.
All in all that is pretty darn good for a GM who started with doo doo and had to basically rebuild 90% of the team. Oh, does anyone forget JRob brought Vrabel in as our HC.
Robby made one of the worst draft decisions of alltime with Isaiah Wilson.
The Julio deal is looking like a wash. I doubt he will even be on the team next year but we will be paying for him. No 2nd rd pick this year and no 4th in 2023. Ouch.
Perhaps they should hire me for an advisor position. I would have taken Jonathan Taylor with that 30th pick we wasted on Wilson and just tagged Henry for one more year. Giving huge long term deals to 27 year old RBs is usually not a good idea. Taylor is the 2nd best back in the league to a healthy Henry.
I would not have made the Julio trade. Julio is a big WR he is not in the Marvin Harrison-Torri Holt mold. Big receivers do not have the same longevity.
You can get pretty good starting players in this league for a 3rd or 4th rd pick. We got Travis Henry for a third a while back and got a 1200 yard year out of him. The Pats got Randy moss in 07 for a 5th rd pick and he was the best WR in the draft.
The Julio deal is looking like a wash. I doubt he will even be on the team next year but we will be paying for him. No 2nd rd pick this year and no 4th in 2023. Ouch.
Perhaps they should hire me for an advisor position. I would have taken Jonathan Taylor with that 30th pick we wasted on Wilson and just tagged Henry for one more year. Giving huge long term deals to 27 year old RBs is usually not a good idea. Taylor is the 2nd best back in the league to a healthy Henry.
I would not have made the Julio trade. Julio is a big WR he is not in the Marvin Harrison-Torri Holt mold. Big receivers do not have the same longevity.
You can get pretty good starting players in this league for a 3rd or 4th rd pick. We got Travis Henry for a third a while back and got a 1200 yard year out of him. The Pats got Randy moss in 07 for a 5th rd pick and he was the best WR in the draft.
I agree, the Julio Jones trade looks bad so far..but if he balls out in the playoffs it will help ease some of it...big IF though.
JRob is terrible in the first round and bad at evaluating OL
Jonathan Taylor would have been a great pick
After trading up for Conklin he should have been extended prior to him being a FA then the Wilson pick would not have happened
JRob is terrible in the first round and bad at evaluating OL
Jonathan Taylor would have been a great pick
After trading up for Conklin he should have been extended prior to him being a FA then the Wilson pick would not have happened
Isiah Wilson was a bad pick, but it’s probably not even the worst pick in Titans history let alone NFL all time. Come on…..
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