Far more to an RB than rushing yards my friend. CMC and Kamara are the weapons they are largely bc they are great receivers. It's part of the game.
DJ was only in his 2nd year in the league when he went for over 2k yards, and he went for over 1k total his rookie year. And he was a 3rd round pick in a committee.
Again, anyone who wants to pay Henry now wouldve paid DJ then.
Sure catching the ball out of the backfield is a part of it but it doesn’t make teams stack the box.
Coming off a season long injury and one good season - there would be more people not wanting to sign Henry to a massive deal.
I bet we would all be happy if he got a David Johnson 3 year deal with the chance to cut him after 2 seasons.
What does this have to do with cost/value?
It has everything to do with cost/value. You have to prepare for RB’s like Henry and Zeke in a much different way than you do David Johnson. Teams pay RB’s who are true threats on the ground differently than they do backs like DJ. There’s a reason he only got 3 years.
Why are still waiting? Sign him already so we can begin to work on the rest of FA!!!
You pay big money for the last 10 games not the first 6...and it is reasonably for some to question whether it is a good move.
I dont think we can sign anyone until March. I could be wrong about that.
We can sign our own guys anytime we want
Oh ok, well dang they need to get busy.
You have to prepare for them either way. You specified that teams don’t have to stack the box for Johnson. Fine but they do have to prepare for him.
The value of the contract is not tied to whether a team prepares by stacking the box or having to worry about a receiving game.
Henry averaged almost 70 yards per game in the first 6 games of the year. That’s an 1,100 rush yard pace for the year. Again foolish to think he wasn’t good all year long.
I didn’t say you don’t have to prepare for him lol a RB who forces a team to stack the box opens things up for an offense. It brings more value than a RB who can catch the ball out of the backfield. There are less RB’s who force teams to stack the box than there are pass catching backs. That’s where the value comes in.
Completely subjective standpoint.
I think there are less RB capable of doing what CMC did or DJ did the year he got paid than there’s are backs that force a D to stack a box.
For some examples, since 2000:
David Johnson’s payday was from his 2016 season, 1239/ 16 TD and 80/879/4.
Total yards - 2118 and 20 TD
-His 20 TD is #5 behind 2x priest Holmes(02’, 03’), 2x Marshall faulk(00’, 01’)
-His 879 receiving yards is #4, CMC (19’), Charlie’s Garner (02’) and technically Austin ekeler who only rushed for 500(19’)
-#11 to have 80 catches and at least 200+ carries, faulk x3, CMC x2, Forte, LT, Steven jackson, Barkley, Westbrook, L. Bell
-#18 in 2000+ Offensive yards by split of at least 500 receiving. 3x faulk, 2x LT, 2x Holmes, CMC, CJ, Tiki, Steven jackson, edge, demarco Murray, Ahman green, Arian Foster, L Bell, Larry Johnson, deuce, and McCoy.
That said pretty limited group he’s compared with and of the other names listed, they are almost exclusively top league backs that earned big paychecks and more.
I’d say the percentages of success outside injury (which played a part) the cards were justified in his payday.
Needles to say, most of these backs don’t need a stacked box but definately need specific game plans to stop.
One thing that encouraged me about Henry is how he played injured against the Raiders and Texans. He had 0 speed and explosiveness and still put up decent numbers for 1.5 games.
He can lose a step or two and still be a top 10 or better runner.
He can lose a step or two and still be a top 10 or better runner.
How much would you pay a rb these days for 1100 yards a year? That is above average...not good and no where near great.
I think he meant will not wont.
I think you are missing the entire point. No one is arguing he didn’t have a great season.
If you’re trying to tell me teams didn’t stack the box for Preist Holmes, Marshall Faulk, or LT well I’m just gonna stop replying lol
Dude..... His worst games this year he was still “above average”. How is this so hard to understand?
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