You’re right. It’s the Titans. Even less marketable than Cleveland and with a mediocre fan base. Sorry dude, you have to pay to acquire talent.
Again though, what free agent contracts across the league do you think are fair or good value for top players?? How does that compare to players you consider “overpaid”.
This is real life. It doesn’t work like Madden.
If you think NFL players would rather play in Cleveland or Cincinnati, than Nashville
Child, please
No, they'd rather play for whomever pays them the most. You're way more marketable in Cleveland than in Nashville. Not all of your income comes from the team.If you think NFL players would rather play in Cleveland or Cincinnati, than Nashville
Child, please
You're still not answering the question. Nice GIF tho.
What on earth about Cleveland is more marketable? I rather live in finland than cleavland.No, they'd rather play for whomever pays them the most. You're way more marketable in Cleveland than in Nashville. Not all of your income comes from the team.
You're still not answering the question. Nice GIF tho.
No, they'd rather play for whomever pays them the most. You're way more marketable in Cleveland than in Nashville. Not all of your income comes from the team.
You're still not answering the question. Nice GIF tho.
Marketable?
Come on now
Players want to win and play too. Those orgs are garbage, Titans are not on that level.
You are also ignoring taxes. All things being equal, you make more in states like Tennessee, Florida and Texas.
What on earth about Cleveland is more marketable? I rather live in finland than cleavland.
Cleveland, the city that had their river catch fire
Multiple times lolCleveland, the city that had their river catch fire
He said the player is more marketable in Cleveland, not the city is more marketable.What on earth about Cleveland is more marketable? I rather live in finland than cleavland.
You get paid more to play in Cleveland as incentive for playing in Cleveland.
Multiple times lol
People need to stop with the Eeyore stuff, pretending the Titans are the worst team to play for. Not even close.
Teams that are 100% worse to play for than the Titans:
- Cleveland
- Cincinnati
- Miami (joke org with a horrible owner)
- Las Vegas (see above)
- Buffalo (bigger dump than Cleveland and a giant snow storm half the year)
- Chicago (a hole fans and high taxes)
- Arizona (Armpit of the NFL)
- Detroit (do you need an explanation?)
- Jacksonville (Ask Yanni)
- Washington (idiot owner, horrible city)
- Chargers (Ask Eli)
There are several others which are debatable.
There are only a handful I would, 100% put ahead of the Titans
- Dallas
- Denver
- NY teams (maybe not the Jets)
- Seattle
- Green Bay
- KC
U can get paid a lot to play for a crappy team but if they have taxes it would prob equal out to joining a good team that doesn't have taxes.He said the player is more marketable in Cleveland, not the city is more marketable.
You get paid more to play in Cleveland as incentive for playing in Cleveland.
Also you don't even have to be a good player to be marketable, u just need a personality. I think if u want that spotlight u can find it anywhere, doesn't have to be a place where no one wants to go.
RG3 was marketable and could barely crack starter rotation in the league.
Baker is marketable and hasn't performed as a starting QB
The Boys are marketable
Marshawn Lynch was marketable
Minshew is marketable and hes Bortles 2.0
Doesnt Seattle travel more than any team? Thats not ideal.People need to stop with the Eeyore stuff, pretending the Titans are the worst team to play for. Not even close.
Teams that are 100% worse to play for than the Titans:
- Cleveland
- Cincinnati
- Miami (joke org with a horrible owner)
- Las Vegas (see above)
- Buffalo (bigger dump than Cleveland and a giant snow storm half the year)
- Chicago (a hole fans and high taxes)
- Arizona (Armpit of the NFL)
- Detroit (do you need an explanation?)
- Jacksonville (Ask Yanni)
- Washington (idiot owner, horrible city)
- Chargers (Ask Eli)
There are several others which are debatable.
There are only a handful I would, 100% put ahead of the Titans
- Dallas
- Denver
- NY teams (maybe not the Jets)
- Seattle
- Green Bay
- KC
Doesnt Seattle travel more than any team? Thats not ideal.
True, and it is far from where most players are from
Being close to where most players are from is another benefit Tennessee has
He said the player is more marketable in Cleveland, not the city is more marketable.
You get paid more to play in Cleveland as incentive for playing in Cleveland.
It is not that big a difference lol
Probably pay more in taxes in Ohio than you would to make up the difference in endorsement money.
Agents like to push endorsements because those greedy buggers can get a much higher percentage of that money.
Maybe for the taxes purpose you’re right but the point has to do with a team like Cleveland offering a player more because they’re in Cleveland, a less than desirable place to play (location wise, not even getting into the dumpster fire that is the browns franchise)U can get paid a lot to play for a crappy team but if they have taxes it would prob equal out to joining a good team that doesn't have taxes.
Also you don't even have to be a good player to be marketable, u just need a personality. I think if u want that spotlight u can find it anywhere, doesn't have to be a place where no one wants to go.
RG3 was marketable and could barely crack starter rotation in the league.
Baker is marketable and hasn't performed as a starting QB
The Boys are marketable
Marshawn Lynch was marketable
Minshew is marketable and hes Bortles 2.0
Agree, marginal players can increase marketability without playing well BUT good players can increase their marketability without saying anything. A guy like Marvin Harrison May have reached higher pay to go FA and settle on a crappy franchise. As mentioned, players like to win also.
-Griffin was a superstar for 1 season until the injury, never recovered and cousins played well to push him out of the picture. His marketability has dropped to the bottom after he couldn’t make a return.
-Baker is marketable because he’s the browns QB and playing well. Browns will market any decent player to draw in fans just like every other team.
-Cowboys have been marketable since at least the 70’s. Winning helps.
-minshew was a flash in the pan. Had fans excited til about week 6, then losing happened. He doesn’t win, he’ll be gone quickly.
I agree it’s not that big a difference overall, but the point is there probably is a difference.True, and it is far from where most players are from
Being close to where most players are from is another benefit Tennessee has
It is not that big a difference lol
Probably pay more in taxes in Ohio than you would to make up the difference in endorsement money.
Agents like to push endorsements because those greedy buggers can get a much higher percentage of that money.
Separately, it’s tough to compare when talent means high offers from many teams. Plenty of teams will over pay for talent and location is probably pretty low on the bargaining chips in most cases.
You said it earlier, players want to win.
I agree it’s not that big a difference overall, but the point is there probably is a difference.
Separately, it’s tough to compare when talent means high offers from many teams. Plenty of teams will over pay for talent and location is probably pretty low on the bargaining chips in most cases.
You said it earlier, players want to win.
Players want to win yes, and play
I think playing is the big one, then winning.
Also remember, only a small handful of players make significant money on endorsements in the NFL anyway. And most of them are QBs.
So, back to what this thread was about. This guy went out of his way to do an interview(wearing a Titans shirt) for the fans. Never underestimate mindset. He is from a small school and probably needs a ton of work to catch up mentally. That does not mean he is not capable of playing at a high level in the NFL. I hope he can catch on long enough to develope into his potential. I will be rooting for him.
I would take miami off that list. The city is just to awesome if you don't care about winning a ring lol.People need to stop with the Eeyore stuff, pretending the Titans are the worst team to play for. Not even close.
Teams that are 100% worse to play for than the Titans:
- Cleveland
- Cincinnati
- Miami (joke org with a horrible owner)
- Las Vegas (see above)
- Buffalo (bigger dump than Cleveland and a giant snow storm half the year)
- Chicago (a hole fans and high taxes)
- Arizona (Armpit of the NFL)
- Detroit (do you need an explanation?)
- Jacksonville (Ask Yanni)
- Washington (idiot owner, horrible city)
- Chargers (Ask Eli)
There are several others which are debatable.
There are only a handful I would, 100% put ahead of the Titans
- Dallas
- Denver
- NY teams (maybe not the Jets)
- Seattle
- Green Bay
- KC
Vegas is great to visit but idk if I would want to live there.
Chargers same as miami.
Again. What about being in Cleveland makes him more marketable? Sorry my wording was poor.He said the player is more marketable in Cleveland, not the city is more marketable.
You get paid more to play in Cleveland as incentive for playing in Cleveland.
You keep ignoring the question and deviating from the main point. That's 3 times now. How many free agents do you think are fair value vs over-paid?Cleveland, the city that had their river catch fire
Since JRob has such a track record of "over paying" for free agents, what GMs have a track record of singing players at a discount? You can argue most free agents get "over-paid" (the good/young ones especially). That's just the way the league works. Enlighten me.
and yes, I would wager that jersey sales, endorsements, and other sources of income are more lucrative in Cleveland than in Nashville. The state tax argument is over stated. You only play half the games at home. Tennessee isn't the only state without state tax and for most NFL states, we're talking about 5% or less. For big name players, like the free agents we are talking about, they can make up for that in Jerseys alone in a place like Cleveland over Nashville. There is a reason why players still sign in states like NY and Cali even though they have the highest taxes. Money talks. Which circles all back to the main point, that you need to pay to get free agents, especially in small markets. Sorry dude, Nashville is a small market.
Go ahead and respond with a joke or a meme.
You keep ignoring the question and deviating from the main point. That's 3 times now. How many free agents do you think are fair value vs over-paid?
Since JRob has such a track record of "over paying" for free agents, what GMs have a track record of singing players at a discount? You can argue most free agents get "over-paid" (the good/young ones especially). That's just the way the league works. Enlighten me.
and yes, I would wager that jersey sales, endorsements, and other sources of income are more lucrative in Cleveland than in Nashville. The state tax argument is over stated. You only play half the games at home. Tennessee isn't the only state without state tax and for most NFL states, we're talking about 5% or less. For big name players, like the free agents we are talking about, they can make up for that in Jerseys alone in a place like Cleveland over Nashville. There is a reason why players still sign in states like NY and Cali even though they have the highest taxes. Money talks. Which circles all back to the main point, that you need to pay to get free agents, especially in small markets. Sorry dude, Nashville is a small market.
Go ahead and respond with a joke or a meme.
I am ignoring your question because it is stupid. Sorry that Ignoring has hurt your feelings so much.
Your long diatribe is full of your personal speculation, not fact. The fact is very few NFL players make significant money from marketing themselves. And the marketing opportunities in Cleveland are not significantly better anyway.
He was referring to the pay offered to play in Cleveland vice a city people would actually want to play in.Again. What about being in Cleveland makes him more marketable? Sorry my wording was poor.
That was the explanation of marketable. It’s from the FA standpoint, you can offer less if there are other attractive pieces to offer (desirable city, winning team, etc).
By that standpoint, a player is more marketable to play in Cleveland.
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