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I predict fines and forfeits and no loss of draft picks. But I think it is possible the beloved Steelers (by the NFL) get their forfeit win and their bye week back.
 
They already rescheduled that game. Titans won't be forfeiting that one.
They did, but had we actually violated the no gathering rule, the “historic” punishment may have included that game as the Steelers are ticked off about the reschedule. For now though, looks like we just may forfeit the Bills.
 
Appreciate the detailed story but that’s why I said “most” come in contact. Of course there are going to be outliers but according to the CDC that’s an extremely rare way to contract the virus. Should we shut things down for instances that are extremely rare?

Using that example I’ll say people probably have no problem with Amazon, UPS, or FedEx delivering packages.
Yea, I guess what I'm saying is, that case didnt, but another single unexplained case is the reason we went from 0 back to 130ish.

Given that case is unexplained, theres every chance it was from something similar to the example I gave.

I dont want to get into it beyond this, just offering up the small country view, where we have access to a lot of detail given the minimal number of cases.

I understand your position too.
 
Sweden has one of the highest death tolls per million for COVID. Even they are questioning their tactic to dealing with COVID. You act like they are happy there.
Did you watch the video? They look a heck of a lot happier than we are right now. Business as usual.

Sweden has had 5800 deaths and has a population of 10million. No shut downs, no mandatory mask, schools and businesses remained open.

New York on the other hand has had 33,000 deaths with a population of 19.4 million. Three times more deaths on a per capita basis and NY still has everything shut down. So which was way was better?

The point is these lockdowns do very little to stop the spread, especially since the survival rate is 99.997% to 99.5% for people 70 and under. Simple math.

Here’s the chart on deaths in Sweden. Doesn’t look any worse to me and they didn’t ruin millions of lives by forcing people to shut down their businesses and put millions of people out of work.

It’s mind boggling to me how everyone doesn’t see this, it’s clear as glass. These lockdowns are counter productive. Too many people have become acquiesce.

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Looks pretty ravaged by COVID in Sweden.
That’s funny... I had just posted the same chart and then I saw your post. Simple mathematics.

We’ve learned to live with the flu, AIDS, and a number of other diseases without shutting the economy down with no end in site. It’s been 7 months already. Time for people to learn how live with this too without ruining any more businesses and lives.
 
That’s funny... I had just posted the same chart and then I saw your post. Simple mathematics.

We’ve learned to live with the flu, AIDS, and a number of other diseases without shutting the economy down with no end in site. It’s been 7 months already. Time for people to learn how live with this too without ruining any more businesses and lives.

People who don’t mind shutting down business don’t have a business or livelihood that’s getting shut down.
 
Did you watch the video? They look a heck of a lot happier than we are right now. Business as usual.

Sweden has had 5800 deaths and has a population of 10million. No shut downs, no mandatory mask, schools and businesses remained open.

New York on the other hand has had 33,000 deaths with a population of 19.4 million. Three times more deaths on a per capita basis and NY still has everything shut down. So which was way was better?

The point is these lockdowns do very little to stop the spread, especially since the survival rate is 99.997% to 99.5% for people 70 and under. Simple math.

Here’s the chart on deaths in Sweden. Doesn’t look any worse to me and they didn’t ruin millions of lives by forcing people to shut down their businesses and put millions of people out of work.

It’s mind boggling to me how everyone doesn’t see this, it’s clear as glass. These lockdowns are counter productive. Too many people have become acquiesce.

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sweden covid deaths - 5,892
norway covid deaths - 275(1/2 the population of sweden)
finland covid deaths - 346 (1/2 the population of sweden)
denmark covid deaths - 663 (1/2 the population of sweden)
germany covid deaths - 9,566 (8x the population of sweden)
poland covid deaths - 2,792 (4x the population of sweden)

WHAT GREAT SUCCESS SWEDEN HAD YOU ARE SO RIGHT

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That’s funny... I had just posted the same chart and then I saw your post. Simple mathematics.
simple mathematics
 
So you're saying his statement isn't correct?
I’m saying if someone wants to change their way of measuring the “devastation” by using the deaths per million numbers on Sweden, but not any other country, it’s because the actual death toll is next to nothing, as shown by the picture.
 
sweden covid deaths - 5,892
norway covid deaths - 275(1/2 the population of sweden)
finland covid deaths - 346 (1/2 the population of sweden)
denmark covid deaths - 663 (1/2 the population of sweden)
germany covid deaths - 9,566 (8x the population of sweden)
poland covid deaths - 2,792 (4x the population of sweden)

WHAT GREAT SUCCESS SWEDEN HAD YOU ARE SO RIGHT


simple mathematics


And New Zealand deaths - 25 (Population 5m)
 
sweden covid deaths - 5,892
norway covid deaths - 275(1/2 the population of sweden)
finland covid deaths - 346 (1/2 the population of sweden)
denmark covid deaths - 663 (1/2 the population of sweden)
germany covid deaths - 9,566 (8x the population of sweden)
poland covid deaths - 2,792 (4x the population of sweden)

WHAT GREAT SUCCESS SWEDEN HAD YOU ARE SO RIGHT


simple mathematics


Nice try, but the problem is you can’t stay locked down forever so as soon as people do start going out and about again, it’s going to spread. No way to stop a virus from running it’s course.

Looks like Denmark new cases are starting to soar now that people are climbing out of their hole.

New Covid Cases Soar in Denmark, Surpassing No-Lockdown Sweden

Again, NY has been locked down for seven months, and has three times the deaths per capita than Sweden who didn’t lockdown at all. No talking sense to someone who can’t see the forest because of the trees.

By your thinking, from now on, anytime we have a disease where people might die, we’ll have to shut everything down and wreck our lives, businesses and economy. Real smart.
 
Nice try, but the problem is you can’t stay locked down forever so as soon as people,so start going out and about again, it’s going to spread. No way to stop a virus from running it’s course.

Looks like Denmark new cases are starting to soar now that people are climbing out of their hole.
New Covid Cases Soar in Denmark, Surpassing No-Lockdown Sweden

Again, NY has been locked down for seven months, and has three times the deaths per capita than Sweden who didn’t lockdown at all. No talking sense to someone who can’t see the forest because of the tree.

By your thinking, from now on, anytime we have a disease where people might die, we’ll have to shut everything down and wreck our lives, businesses and economy. Real smart.
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also your article on denmark means nothing. they are now at 317 a day. they are only ahead of sweden because sweden is at their damn near lowest of 200 right now. sweden was averaging far over that per day since march

but i know actual facts mean nothing when discussing this with you
 
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