Im with @The Hammer on this one!
I've not been on this board in the off-season so apologies for being late to the conversation.
I've worked in IT all my life. It's pretty easy for the NFL to find out what players gambled when and especially where. All phones have GPS and can GPS-tag anything, be it photos, Instagram posts or BetMGM transactions. A VPN will not save you here. And if you're on the facility Wifi, that makes it easier.
The NFL can't see the transaction due to encryption, but they can see that the app was used in the facility and can ask the respective company for the data. And if the company has a deal with the NFL, it's probably in their contract to turn over that data regarding NFL employees and players.
You also can't gamble anonymously since all this stuff has to be reported for tax purposes.
Back in the 90s I worked for a health care company with close ties to Vanderbilt. So close in fact that we were on the university internet. I pleaded for a firewall between us and the main university since I didn't want students or anyone else hacking into our medical records database. When a major hack on campus did happen, I finally got my firewall and I began monitoring what our own employees were doing. And I had to quietly reprimand a couple of folks who kept spending time at "Playboy.com". So yes, assumne you are always being watched on company time.
I've worked in IT all my life. It's pretty easy for the NFL to find out what players gambled when and especially where. All phones have GPS and can GPS-tag anything, be it photos, Instagram posts or BetMGM transactions. A VPN will not save you here. And if you're on the facility Wifi, that makes it easier.
The NFL can't see the transaction due to encryption, but they can see that the app was used in the facility and can ask the respective company for the data. And if the company has a deal with the NFL, it's probably in their contract to turn over that data regarding NFL employees and players.
You also can't gamble anonymously since all this stuff has to be reported for tax purposes.
Back in the 90s I worked for a health care company with close ties to Vanderbilt. So close in fact that we were on the university internet. I pleaded for a firewall between us and the main university since I didn't want students or anyone else hacking into our medical records database. When a major hack on campus did happen, I finally got my firewall and I began monitoring what our own employees were doing. And I had to quietly reprimand a couple of folks who kept spending time at "Playboy.com". So yes, assumne you are always being watched on company time.
As great as technology has become, it’s also done in a lot of folks
I guess these are some IT questions regarding the segregation of who can and who cannot bet within the stadium.
I understand GPS, but if you have a facility with say, 500 phones, even off season, how does GPS distinguish the owner? Easy problem to solve if there is just zero betting for anyone.
and I agree, there must be a partnership(s) among a bunch of different betting sites.
If not using WiFi, maybe a little harder to detect if they’re on a betting site.
Great questions. First of all, every computer, phone, tablet, Internet-of-Things or whatever device with internet access has a special number assigned to it in hardware called a Media Access Control number, or MAC address. MAC address were built into the Ethernet networking standard created in the early 70s as a way for the network to know where information needed to be routed. So let's say you accessed the web server GoTitans.com. The web server has a MAC address that is known to the router that controls that network. So your access to GoTitans.com goes to the right place. And the information you send has your MAC addressed attached so the routers going back to you can find your specific computer, phone or whatever device initiated the communication. MAC address are different that Internet Protocol (IP) addresses since IP addresses can change. MAC addresses don't usually change. Routers use IP for communication, but that IP address is bound to a MAC address in a table so that communication always flows to and fro to the right place.
I say "usually" because the ability of MAC addresses to change is baked into the features of some modern operating systems. Apple allows its iPhone/iPad users to use a "Private MAC" address, which is basically a fake one. It's done to obfuscate the owner of the device. This is useful if you want to make it harder for social media companies to know every last thing about you, or when traveling to countries with less than stellar laws on free speech and expression.
But there are other ways for companies to track what you do. The easiest is to install provisioning software on the phone or computer itself which allows the company to track what you do. And it's perfectly legal and is baked into the employment contracts of many of us. Provisioning software has some benefits to the user like easy access to company email, calendaring, or internal networks through a VPN. But they can also be used to track the communications of employees to prohibited places, like gambling or pornography.
I'm also skeptical that NPF didn't know that this behavior was prohibited by NFL rules. Players are trained in virtually every infraction that could subject them to discipline and especially suspension. Suspension hurts the team and prevents the player from being compensated and a six game suspension is very expensive. If he's going to appeal through the NFLPA, he's going to have to prove that this behavior was never mentioned to him in the mandatory training.
No questions if he was using the equipment owned by the Titans.
And that’s a good breakdown for how individual internet accessible items can determine “who” (the IP address) that accessed the site.
the connection to owner of that IP address probably isn’t that difficult even if by phone but there would have to be some sort of disclosure from the owner of the device to the NFL.
And there would need to be some disclosure from every betting site to even register the IP as anything.
I’ll guess there is no betting period, even like janitors which makes it easy to not care who the gambling is being done by.
As far as knowing the rules, there are some rules for every company that people are probably unaware of, just a matter of emphasis from the employers (in this case the NFL).
I think total ignorance is not really possible like mentioned before about Ridley but ignorance to the specific of “no gambling period” maybe has a little wiggle room base on the training emphasis provided by the league following Ridley’s situation.
Not easy to believe the ignorance but a I think there’s room for possibility.
Working out with Henry must equal the guys who fetched his weights when he’s ready to change and then fetch his water bottle and mix his protein shakes.
Henry looks twice the size of the rest of the dudes out there lol.
Is it me, or was that highlight reel throw to Henry a bit behind him? They had time, is that the best they filmed?
How long ago was this? I can't imagine people are running the risk of visiting those kind of sites on company computers in 2023, when everyone has a DATA Signal up their........ BOOT......
Like I said earlier, "Back in the 90s". It was just used as an example for the data monitoring techniques these days are far more sophisticated than just reading a firewall log. Besides, most companies these days block porn as a matter of policy.
This is great news, maybe.
I don’t recall any positive comments on NPF last year but who knows? Maybe the “better than what we have” actually holds true.
Yeah another warm body helps but tempered expectations for sure
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