Murderer? Do you really believe that? Is this an OJ thing now?Starkiller said:
I'm interested now SK. You don't know what you have done. I want to hear the case against Ray Lewis. If anyone can sway my opinion it is you. Take your time. I'd like to hear this.
Lewis clearly was involved in the murder of those 2 guys, even if it's as simple as his 2 buddies doing the actual killing and him taking them away in his limo and covering it up.
Just look up the facts in the case. The inside of his limo and all of their clothes were covered in the blood of the victims. And he lied under oath about his relationship with his 2 buddies who were also involved. The court didn't find him "not guilty" of murder because he copped a plea bargain and pled guilty to a lesser charge). He had better lawyers than the DA, who screwed the criminal case completely. Then he settled out of court to prevent civil trials from the families of the 2 victims.
I don't care if the court didn't find him guilty of murder, he did it.
Just look up the facts in the case. The inside of his limo and all of their clothes were covered in the blood of the victims. And he lied under oath about his relationship with his 2 buddies who were also involved. The court didn't find him "not guilty" of murder because he copped a plea bargain and pled guilty to a lesser charge). He had better lawyers than the DA, who screwed the criminal case completely. Then he settled out of court to prevent civil trials from the families of the 2 victims.
I don't care if the court didn't find him guilty of murder, he did it.
Ray Lewis >>> any defender the Titans have ever had since moving from Houston.
I would puke. I also would not go to a single game he was playing in.
But there is not a snowball's chance in hell of this happening. The Titans are going to pay for a MLB who is clearly on the decline.
But there is not a snowball's chance in hell of this happening. The Titans are going to pay for a MLB who is clearly on the decline.
Thank you as always for providing the facts to think on.
Good thing our GM isn't this guy.
Good thing our GM isn't this guy.
Lewis would be a great addition to the team if the situation were different. Sacrificing a 2nd when we are already without a 3rd for a 30 year old that I'm sure would cost us more than we want to spend is not the direction we want to go. His passion and leadership would be incredible assets to the team if we were close to being a playoff contender.
No point to it. One, why would he want to play here. There's no good reason for him to finish out here when he could play for a contender. Two, we aren't going anywhere with or wothout him for another three to four years. By the time we are ready to roll he'll be over the Drew hill. There's really no point on either side.
I'm not saying we should get him either, however I do want to raise a few points.
1) We already have wifebeaters, drunken drivers and flashers. Accessory to murder doesn't bother me much, especially since he wasn't convicted even if he did pull an OJ. Maybe it's because I don't live in TN, but what the players do outside the field comes second in my book.
2) Don't spout nonsense about getting Hawk instead Lewis. The question is do we draft D'Qwell Jackson/Abdul Hodge/Thomas Howard or trade for Ray Lewis.
3) Comparisons to Pacman are right out the window. If anything Ray Lewis brings a team together. As far as I know he's been the centerpiece of the Ravens team for years, both on and off the field. He had his one runin with the law, but for all I know he's as professional as they come when it's about football.
So the question is really, would he be worth more than above draft prospects, considering his age, injury concerns and salary? I honestly don't know. For a third (which I know we don't have) and change I would be all over him though (certainly a better trade than Henry in my book...)
1) We already have wifebeaters, drunken drivers and flashers. Accessory to murder doesn't bother me much, especially since he wasn't convicted even if he did pull an OJ. Maybe it's because I don't live in TN, but what the players do outside the field comes second in my book.
2) Don't spout nonsense about getting Hawk instead Lewis. The question is do we draft D'Qwell Jackson/Abdul Hodge/Thomas Howard or trade for Ray Lewis.
3) Comparisons to Pacman are right out the window. If anything Ray Lewis brings a team together. As far as I know he's been the centerpiece of the Ravens team for years, both on and off the field. He had his one runin with the law, but for all I know he's as professional as they come when it's about football.
So the question is really, would he be worth more than above draft prospects, considering his age, injury concerns and salary? I honestly don't know. For a third (which I know we don't have) and change I would be all over him though (certainly a better trade than Henry in my book...)
Carpy said:
Maybe you should look at the entire sentence?
Actually let me edit my original statement as it's probably more a case of Aiding and abetting, which doesn't bother me much compared to doing the actual deed. As I understood the scenario he wasn't part of the murder, just allegedly helped cover it up. Kind of like how Jamal only helped buy drugs, he didn't actually do it.
No murders or those who are "aiding and abetting". The guy is scum IMO.
Maybe Carpy is right but I still like this post alot.Vigsted said:
At this point I'd rather have Lewis than Henry if we could go back and deal this years third again.
Well, if people don't want "criminals" on the team, they're eliminating a good chunk of players. There's a disproportionate number of "criminals" in the NFL (and NBA I guess, though I don't follow it), however it's sports and it's money, so you tend to ignore the offfield misdeeds.
That's just a bit judgemental don't you think?:ha:Soxcat said:
I'm just messing with you...:hmm: :winker: :lol:
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